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03/12/2006, 19:43 fandango Joined on 03/12/2006 Devon(soon to be 29) Posts 8 Staffies We have a nearly 11 year old Staffie that we are hoping to take to France when we move in 2007. However, having seen the French embassy list of dangerous dogs it would seem that, as a Staffie without a pedigree, she is on the list.Then, having read some of everyone else's postings and the letter from the French Minister of the Interior, it would seem she is not a dangerous dog. Help! I just don't know what to do. Has anyone else taken an un-pedigreed Staffie on the ferry to France, what is the procedure and did they get stopped, refused, questioned, anything!!I have e-mailed the French Embassy in London, quoting the afore-mentioned letter and await a reply but anyone else's experience will be welcome.    Report

03/12/2006, 20:52 Wozza Joined on 15/11/2005 Near Vitrac, 16 Posts 170 Re: Staffies Somebody else may be able to give a more concrete answer than this, but my understanding was that just because you have a dog on the dangerous dog list of breeds, you are not prevented from owning one, you just have to register it with the local powers that be. I would therefore assume that you are allowed to travel with your dog to France, on the assumption that you will register it upon arrival. Don't take my word for it - do check, please. Try contacting your local DEFRA office - they helped us regarding all requirements when we exported our cats outside the EU - they seemed to have copies of the requirements for everywhere. Warren    Report

03/12/2006, 21:07 Clair Joined on 23/08/2004 ------- Forum Moderator ------- Lot (46) Posts 7,792 Re: Staffies I met a lovely staffie at a market (in France) recently and her owner told me the dog had to be muzzled and on a lead when outside. There is a difference between American Staff terrier and staff bull terrier. See here (in French) Pedigree or not, if your dog looks like a staffie, she'll be treated as one by the general public and possibly by the local gendarmerie. With the number of stories whipped up in the press about dangerous dogs, you really must take a belt and braces approach to this. More info here Clair Real Virtual French Person    Report

04/12/2006, 9:06 berger Joined on 15/11/2005 Posts 60 Re: Staffies hi,   there is another posting here regarding your breed of dog, and they are NOT classed as a dangerous dog here, pedigree or not, christina can give you more information, as she recently posted to rehome a staff here in france and is more up on the law than me.   good luck   MONTY    Report

04/12/2006, 9:33 Llwyncelyn Joined on 14/06/2006 Posts 703 Re: Staffies Fandango I write having owned Bassets for all of my life and nothing will change that.  I also write having remarried some years ago and with my wife coming from the West Midlands you can guess the rest!  A staffie followed. Yes Bridie is now 13 and wonderful.  We went through what you went through and Bridie has her pedigree and all of that  and................they are not repeat classed as dangerous dogs here in France.  Come to Villedieu les Poeles go to the atelier in the main street and see his wonderful Staffie. However if you are going to bring the staffie in the most urgent of all prerequisites is of course the rabies and the attendant detail.  Get that right it is important. Bridie is now getting a bit tired and spends most of her life sleeping going out occasionally when she feels the need and exploring all the land around our house. regards    Report

04/12/2006, 18:24 Chris Joined on 08/09/2006 S.W.England (for now...) Posts 57 Re: Staffies Wonderful to read this, as we were getting worried about bringing our (non pedigree, but very obviously) Staffie over.  He's so un-dangerous that the only thing he hurts is anything he sits on too hard - my wife is threatening to re-name him 'Caramel', 'cos she says he's brown, sweet, soft and thick! (The last only by comparison with our devious border collie).    Report

04/12/2006, 18:39 Christine Animal Joined on 14/05/2005 Deux-Sèvres Posts 4,374 Re: Staffies The Staffordshire Bull Terrier is not on the list of dangerous dogs (yet!).  Your query seems to be because yours is a cross and that I don't know the answer to, except that a Staffordshire Bull Terrier cross is not on the list either is it ? http://www.planete-staffie.com/arrete.htm What is written exactly on your dog's identity papers ?   animalaidsaintaubin.monsite.orange.fr/ Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful    Report

05/12/2006, 10:17 fandango Joined on 03/12/2006 Devon(soon to be 29) Posts 8 Re: Staffies My dog is not a cross, she is staffie through and through, however only one parent was pedigree so she is not. The information I found was on the French Embassy website  where it says that non-pedigree staffies are on the dangerous dogs list. I have e-mailed them, quoting the letter from the French Minister of the Interior which says they are not, but have not yet had a reply. We are off to France on Friday for a month and were so worried by this that we are now not taking our old girl with us. What is the procedure at the ferry port, before boarding, in England? I know no-one seems to check you when you land in France, at least not at Roscoff! We hope to move to France later next year and really want this sorted out before we leave. regards    Fandango    Report

05/12/2006, 10:23 Christine Animal Joined on 14/05/2005 Deux-Sèvres Posts 4,374 Re: Staffies Sorry, I misunderstood, must pay more attention!  Staffies are not on the list, so I don't know how yours can be, but I'll see if I can find out through the Société Centrale Canine.     animalaidsaintaubin.monsite.orange.fr/ Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful    Report

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