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   15/05/2008, 15:26
Christine Animal is not online. Last active: 30/06/2008 12:28:36 Christine Animal



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That's very, very sad Jo.  Sad [:(]

  


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   16/05/2008, 16:16
Kristine is not online. Last active: 14/05/2008 14:01:02 Kristine

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I was living in France when the law was first implemented and it appeared that "staffordshire terriers " concerned "staffordshire bull terriers . Thankfully ,  due to a lot of hard work from the french and english S.B.T. clubs this was resinded . I understood perhaps wrongly that because of that , staffies are now treated , by law , in the same manner as all the other breeds of dog not classified in either catergory .I did'nt think that they were still going to come under some restrictions .

 


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   16/05/2008, 18:03
Christine Animal is not online. Last active: 30/06/2008 12:28:36 Christine Animal



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I am no specialist and I thought the same as you Kristine.  I first found out that Staffordshire Bull Terriers were not on the list, fine.  Then the questions popped up about Staffie crosses and ended up with Staffies without a pedigree as there is no way of proving what either of them are. 

When I tried to save lovely little Lily at Niort  mentioned under this thread http://www.completefrance.com/cs/forums/1107613/ShowPost.aspx

several of us thought she could be a Staffie cross.  But the final decision fell when a judge was called in and said she had the morphology of a Pit Bull, a Pit Bull not being a breed but a morphology.  The sweetest little dog you could have met, Lily was put down.  Even the vet hated doing it.  I think of her nearly every day since.

That is this stupid law where dogs are simply judged on what they look like.  That is why so many people are against it.  A terrible story is the one of poor Kenzo who never hurt a fly, a Boxer cross, taken from his family and put down (under same thread above).

Following these queries I had a look last night if there were any sites in English about the "dangerous dogs" in France and came upon this one which has a lot of useful information, though not much in English

http://www.against-bsl.eu/index.htm

On their page Foire aux Questions, you have the answer to the non-pedigree Staffie "Il y a fort à parier qu'un Staffordshire Bull Terrier non LOF relèverait de la 1ère catégorie étant donné les caractéristiques morphologiques figurant dans l'arrêté du 27 avril 1999."

Under their page Pourquoi Soutenir le Collectif I see they have mentioned my Lily.

re, il y a fort à parier qu'un chien staffordshire bull terrier non LOF relèverait de la 1ère catégorie étant donnée les caractéristiques morphologiques figurant dans l'arrêté du 27 avril 1999.


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   17/05/2008, 13:56
Kristine is not online. Last active: 14/05/2008 14:01:02 Kristine

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That's really awful Christine about Lilly , and whenever I visit France I always buy several of the specialist staffie , type dog magazines ,and know from the heartbreaking stories in them about various wonderful pets , but of no provable ancestry being taken from their families and killed . I truely thought that with the staffordshire bull terrier having been taken off the list that the same then would apply to staffie crosses or pure staffies with pedigree's but just not registered . After all , if it's not a crime now to be a staffordshire bull terrier , why should it be a crime to look like one ?

Breed specific dog laws , whatever the country concerned are just so wrong . At the end of the day I personally would prefer that the law would be that ALL dogs have to be muzzled in public places , then we would all be safe from any potentially dangerous dog , be it ,pitbull or yorkshire terrier , and the dogs would all be safe from each other .

I'm going to visit the sites you mentioned , so I wxpect to have a very unhappy hour or so now .


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