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Changes to Healthcare Entitlement, CPAM, CMU and Cartes Vitales
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 03/01/2008, 14:19
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Sunshine
Joined on 20/11/2004
Cahors
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Re: "French Health Issues" Website Launch
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Being a holder of an E106 that expires on the 5th with a pre existing condition I am so grateful for your continued efforts on behalf of others in a similar situation to me.
Mid December we went into to CPAM and applied for CMU with a letter taken from your website. Towards the end of the month we went back to check on the progress in a very polite manor. The lady was really shirty, jumped out of her seat and said she would get our refusal letter immediatley, and told us there is no right of appeal! 5 minutes later she came back to say our case was being looked into but we would here something soon. Oh and if we wanted to appeal we could!. This was the first unhelpful person I have met in that department. We still have not had a reply but this is to be expected with all the festive holidays.
I have just seen your CMU refusal letter - AGAIN- on your website and will certainly use it if I am refused entry. I will also ask the Marie to support us along with my Dr, I thought this may add a little more weight should I have to make an appeal.
Thank you soooo soo much for your help and support.
As I have so many problems with the Living France forum website, I now check your French Health website first.
Sunshine
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03/01/2008, 17:14
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groslard
Joined on 26/12/2007
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Re: "French Health Issues" Website Launch
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The problem with the site is that is riddled with inaccuracies..so it can't be taken seriously!
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03/01/2008, 17:16
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cooperlola
 
Joined on 05/05/2006
72 - Sarthe - home of les 24 heures du Mans
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Well please let us know what they are then we can put them right. Otherwise your remarks are a little pointless.
Healthcare Issues Site
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03/01/2008, 17:18
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groslard
Joined on 26/12/2007
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Here or there?
I have already posted a more balanced view:
The standard ways of getting Health Cover in France are by paying
contributions, not by right of residence, as with the NHS in the UK
The
CMU is not the normal way of obtaining cover, and is not synonymous
with the NHS. There was a atypical period between 2000 and 2007, when
British immigrants were allowed into it, but for those who arrived
before and those will will arrive after that period , that is not the
case.
EMPLOYED
If you are employed, and pay the
appropriate cotisations, then you can enter or remain in the French
system and will enjoy the same rights as a French national, similarly
employed.
BUSINESS
If you run a registered business, and
are paying cotisations, you can enter or remain in the French system
and will enjoy the same rights as a French national running a similar
business.
THE RETIRED
Anybody who has an E121 is unaffected.
THE EARLY RETIRED
Anybody
arriving in France with an E106, or anybody currently on an E106, will
benefit from healthcare paid for by the UK for the duration of the
validity of their E106. Immediately after this time the UK will no
longer pay. They will then have to take out full private health
insurance, to cover them until UK state pensionable age and/or receipt
of an E121.
This insurance must comply with the French specifications, detailed here
http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/WAspad/UnArticleDeCode?code=CSECSOCL.rcv&art=L321-1
Anybody
with a pre-existing or chronic medical condition, may appeal to be
allowed to join the CMU. The conditions for these appeals are clear.
Anybody whose appeal is successful on this basis, will also get cover
for their dependents.
Anybody contributing to, or benefiting from, the CMU up to and including 23.11.07 will now be able to remain with it.
Anybody arriving in France without an E106 will have to take out private insurance immediately.
French insurance companies are beginning to offer full health care packages.
FRENCH RESIDENCY
After 5 years permanent, legal and uninterrupted residence, guaranteed entry into the CMU.
SIGNING ON
There
is potential to "sign on" as unemployed in France. If you have already
worked and paid enough contributions to enter the system this may
qualify you for benefits through the French system (CMU) However, this
is dependent upon financial and employment status so may be of limited
interest.
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03/01/2008, 17:27
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makfai
Joined on 31/03/2007
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Which bits on the FHI site are wrong?
By the way...UK is not just a residence criterion as you will see from the FHI site.
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03/01/2008, 17:33
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groslard
Joined on 26/12/2007
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But the site implies that it is true for all of us here before 2000..which is not the case..
Perhaps foresight for those of us who bothered to work and get into the system wasn't so bad either..
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