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03/01/2008, 17:14 groslard Joined on 26/12/2007 Posts 255 Re: "French Health Issues" Website Launch The problem with the site is that is riddled with inaccuracies..so it can't be taken seriously!    Report

03/01/2008, 17:16 cooperlola Joined on 05/05/2006 72 - Sarthe - home of les 24 heures du Mans Posts 7,597 Re: "French Health Issues" Website Launch Well please let us know what they are then we can put them right.  Otherwise your remarks are a little pointless. Healthcare Issues Site    Report

03/01/2008, 17:18 groslard Joined on 26/12/2007 Posts 255 Re: "French Health Issues" Website Launch Here or there? I have already posted a more balanced view: The standard  ways of getting Health Cover in France are by paying contributions, not by right of residence, as with the NHS in the UK The CMU is not the normal way of obtaining cover, and is not synonymous with the NHS. There was a atypical period between 2000 and 2007, when British immigrants were allowed into it, but for those who arrived before and those will will arrive after that period , that is not the case. EMPLOYED If you are employed, and pay the appropriate cotisations, then you can enter or remain in the French system and will enjoy the same rights as a French national, similarly employed. BUSINESS If you run a registered business, and are paying cotisations, you can enter or remain in the French system and will enjoy the same rights as a French national running a similar business. THE  RETIRED Anybody who has an E121 is unaffected. THE EARLY RETIRED Anybody arriving in France with an E106, or anybody currently on an E106, will benefit from  healthcare  paid for by the UK for the duration of the validity of their E106.  Immediately after this time the UK will no longer pay.  They will then have to take out full private health insurance, to cover them until UK state pensionable age and/or receipt of an E121. This insurance must comply with the French specifications, detailed here http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/WAspad/UnArticleDeCode?code=CSECSOCL.rcv&art=L321-1 Anybody with a pre-existing or chronic medical condition, may appeal to be allowed to join the CMU.  The conditions for these appeals are clear.  Anybody whose appeal is successful on this basis, will also get cover for their dependents. Anybody contributing to, or benefiting from, the CMU up to and including 23.11.07 will now be able to remain with it. Anybody arriving in France without an E106 will have to take out private insurance immediately. French insurance companies are beginning to offer full health care packages. FRENCH RESIDENCY After 5 years permanent, legal and uninterrupted residence, guaranteed entry into the CMU.  SIGNING ON There is potential to "sign on" as unemployed in France. If you have already worked  and paid enough contributions  to enter the system  this may qualify you for benefits through the French system (CMU)  However, this is dependent upon financial and employment status so may be of limited interest.    Report

03/01/2008, 17:27 makfai Joined on 31/03/2007 Posts 306 Re: "French Health Issues" Website Launch Which bits on the FHI site are wrong?   By the way...UK is not just a residence criterion as you will see from the FHI site.    Report

03/01/2008, 17:27 Russethouse Joined on 23/08/2004 Forum Moderator Posts 11,677 Re: "French Health Issues" Website Launch There was a atypical period between 2000 and 2007, when British immigrants were allowed into it, but for those who arrived before and those will will arrive after that period , that is not the case. Hindsight is a wonderful thing ! www.quimperclub.org 99    Report

03/01/2008, 17:33 groslard Joined on 26/12/2007 Posts 255 Re: "French Health Issues" Website Launch But the site implies that it is true for all of us here before 2000..which is not the case.. Perhaps foresight for those of us who bothered to work and get into the system wasn't so bad either..    Report

03/01/2008, 17:40 groslard Joined on 26/12/2007 Posts 255 Re: "French Health Issues" Website Launch  makfai wrote: Which bits on the FHI site are wrong?   By the way...UK is not just a residence criterion as you will see from the FHI site. a simple example: "Until 1st October 2007, UK nationals wishing to become resident in France were obliged, under French law, to affiliate, and where appropriate, contribute to the CMU.  Comprehensive health insurance was not even an option. " Absolutely not true! I paid Private Health Insurance from 1995 to 1998, when I qualified for the Sécu (NOT the CMU) by cotisations.. And I have never been affiliated to the CMU.    Report

03/01/2008, 17:41 Russethouse Joined on 23/08/2004 Forum Moderator Posts 11,677 Re: "French Health Issues" Website Launch Where ? The fact is that many Europeans came to live in France on the basis of existing French regulations. What ever your thoughts, mine are that it is morally bankrupt and discriminatory to change the goal posts in such a way that it affects the sick and could endanger life, without putting a safety net in place. It is further discriminatory and illogical to penalize those who you actually have to support for 2 years less than other Europeans.   www.quimperclub.org 99    Report

03/01/2008, 17:43 groslard Joined on 26/12/2007 Posts 255 Re: "French Health Issues" Website Launch This is a UK problem, not a French one.    Report

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