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Changes to Healthcare Entitlement, CPAM, CMU and Cartes Vitales
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 03/01/2008, 17:18
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groslard
Joined on 26/12/2007
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Here or there?
I have already posted a more balanced view:
The standard ways of getting Health Cover in France are by paying
contributions, not by right of residence, as with the NHS in the UK
The
CMU is not the normal way of obtaining cover, and is not synonymous
with the NHS. There was a atypical period between 2000 and 2007, when
British immigrants were allowed into it, but for those who arrived
before and those will will arrive after that period , that is not the
case.
EMPLOYED
If you are employed, and pay the
appropriate cotisations, then you can enter or remain in the French
system and will enjoy the same rights as a French national, similarly
employed.
BUSINESS
If you run a registered business, and
are paying cotisations, you can enter or remain in the French system
and will enjoy the same rights as a French national running a similar
business.
THE RETIRED
Anybody who has an E121 is unaffected.
THE EARLY RETIRED
Anybody
arriving in France with an E106, or anybody currently on an E106, will
benefit from healthcare paid for by the UK for the duration of the
validity of their E106. Immediately after this time the UK will no
longer pay. They will then have to take out full private health
insurance, to cover them until UK state pensionable age and/or receipt
of an E121.
This insurance must comply with the French specifications, detailed here
http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/WAspad/UnArticleDeCode?code=CSECSOCL.rcv&art=L321-1
Anybody
with a pre-existing or chronic medical condition, may appeal to be
allowed to join the CMU. The conditions for these appeals are clear.
Anybody whose appeal is successful on this basis, will also get cover
for their dependents.
Anybody contributing to, or benefiting from, the CMU up to and including 23.11.07 will now be able to remain with it.
Anybody arriving in France without an E106 will have to take out private insurance immediately.
French insurance companies are beginning to offer full health care packages.
FRENCH RESIDENCY
After 5 years permanent, legal and uninterrupted residence, guaranteed entry into the CMU.
SIGNING ON
There
is potential to "sign on" as unemployed in France. If you have already
worked and paid enough contributions to enter the system this may
qualify you for benefits through the French system (CMU) However, this
is dependent upon financial and employment status so may be of limited
interest.
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03/01/2008, 17:27
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makfai
Joined on 31/03/2007
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Re: "French Health Issues" Website Launch
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Which bits on the FHI site are wrong?
By the way...UK is not just a residence criterion as you will see from the FHI site.
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03/01/2008, 17:33
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groslard
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But the site implies that it is true for all of us here before 2000..which is not the case..
Perhaps foresight for those of us who bothered to work and get into the system wasn't so bad either..
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03/01/2008, 17:43
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groslard
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This is a UK problem, not a French one.
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03/01/2008, 17:49
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cooperlola
 
Joined on 05/05/2006
72 - Sarthe - home of les 24 heures du Mans
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Re: "French Health Issues" Website Launch
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Groslard - I understood your notes above referred to the post which was entitled "the Story so Far" and in the sub forum entitled "Changes to the Healthcare System CMU, Cartes Vitales" and was therefore intended as a summary of the rules and the way in which they affected people who were previously allowed to subscribe to the CMU as pre-retired non French European Union citizens. They are not intended as a summary of the French healthcare system - that is dealt with in the main Health forum and FHI have never had any input into that. Therefore, having read the post again, I still do not believe that it is inaccurate, given its context.
Likewise, the first sentence on our site says:
"French Health Issues is committed to bringing you as up to date as we can with all the facts and news relating to changes to healthcare provisions for UK nationals, resident in France, or planning to move to France."
It is not, and has never been, intended as a guide to the healthcare system in France - it is about ways of dealing with the new regulations and finding alternatives for those affected, and challenging the French Government's interpretation of European residency legislation - which it has used to bring in the new rules. I don't believe anybody has said that the CMU is like the NHS, have they?
But as said above, we rely on information received, so if you find any errors on the site, then do let us know.
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