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28/04/2008, 23:45 Clarkkent Joined on 23/08/2004 Posts 514 Re: Julia Roberts " Au Naturel" ! I have to confess that I am a man and a clean shaven one, too. And I agree that women have a perfect right to present themselves in anyway they wish. The point that I was trying to make earlier is that the removal of hair from women's armpits was driven by a commercial company which cleverly insinuated that such hair was unpleasant to look at. This was done to increase a razor manufacturer's profits, not to benefit womankind. The company's campaign was so succesful that women the world over now regard such hair as shameful. Armpit hair is a natural consequence of physical maturity, therefore its absence is a sign of pre-maturity. Natural signs of sexual maturity are being replaced by sanitised, homogenised, industrialised signals which are marketed to make women feel anxious and corporations profitable. Advertising is used to distort people's views of what is normal. The lack of axillary hair is not the only way in which commercial interests try to infantalise women. Magazines are full of pictures of women on catwalks who are unnaturally thin and "waif like". The fashion industry seems organised specifically to make women feel bad about themselves. The cosmetics industry makes products which encourage women to believe they can disguise their age. I remember Julia Roberts' appearance at the premiere of "Notting Hill" and the subsequent attacks by the self-appointed fashion experts. I think that she was being rather brave not to behave like the rest of the herd. It was her body, her choice.    Report

28/04/2008, 23:49 Russethouse Joined on 23/08/2004 Forum Moderator Posts 9,489 Re: Julia Roberts " Au Natural" ! Deodorant works better on armpits that have been shaved and I think that practical consideration, especially in these days of over heated shops, offices and sometimes homes has a significant bearing on the matter.... www.quimperclub.org 99    Report

29/04/2008, 0:04 Jacqui Too Joined on 23/08/2004 Shropshire / Dordogne 24 Posts 616 Re: Julia Roberts " Au Natural" ! I'm sorry if I have offended anyone over my comments regarding beards, I was only trying to prove my point that it was men who started removing unwanted hair and their possible reasons, my last comment was my own personal view after experiencing an accidental kiss with a man with a beard I was a little surprised about miss Roberts 'au Natural' look after seeing her interviewed on TV once when she was totally embarrassed about her bushy eye brows when she first started making films, I think it may have been 'peter pan' and she said ' why didn't some one tell me how awful they were'. Jackie At least with a spell-checker I can appear somewhat educated!    Report

29/04/2008, 0:06 Dick Smith Joined on 23/08/2004 Surrey and Manche (Pays Mortainais) Posts 8,731 Re: Julia Roberts " Au Natural" ! Well, as a beardie I found it pretty offensive, but then I suppose I was meant to. I am just worried that you don't seem to have understood what ClarkK and I were saying, simply went into a rant. Regards Dick Smith Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground    Report

29/04/2008, 0:34 Russethouse Joined on 23/08/2004 Forum Moderator Posts 9,489 Re: Julia Roberts " Au Natural" ! Lets face it, if we dressed to protect ourselves from the workings of every mans imagination, healthy or otherwise, we'd probably end up wearing sacks - I think what JT was saying is that while it may be true, it is their problem, not ours. www.quimperclub.org 99    Report

29/04/2008, 11:19 Patf Joined on 23/08/2004 SW Gers Posts 2,101 Re: Julia Roberts " Au Natural" ! RH - you said, deodorants work better on shaved armpits. But one of the functions of body hair is to trap air so that the area doesn't over-heat. So unshaven areas produce less sweat, and are less likely to have sweat rash. Any woman who has had a baby in a hot climate knows this    Report

29/04/2008, 11:28 Frenchie Joined on 31/05/2007 2 Sèvres,79 Posts 3,543 Re: Julia Roberts " Au Natural" ! So that s why my choice is shaved armpits+ déodorant = fresh all day ! Happy    Report

29/04/2008, 11:45 Hoddy Joined on 23/08/2004 .....Forum Moderator..... NW Leics/SE Dordogne Posts 2,081 Re: Julia Roberts " Au Natural" ! I think that we're going through a strange phase with regard to personal appearance. I know that many women feel pressured to remove naturally occuring hair, not just from their armpits, but from their faces too. Asian women, in particular, get very embarrassed about it with some of the strongest pressures coming from the men in their own communities. I've even met a couple of American men who keep their forearms hair free. And what about these anorexic women who have plastic breasts implanted ? I find that very odd. It's also woe betide you if you get old - look at the tone of this report about Goldie Hawn. I think she looks wonderful at 62. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=551748&in_page_id=1766&ito=1490 OK - rant over - Clair perhaps you could make that clickable for me ? Hoddy    Report

29/04/2008, 12:56 Christine Animal Joined on 14/05/2005 Deux-Sèvres Posts 4,111 Re: Julia Roberts " Au Natural" ! Totally agree Hoddy, if we could all look like she does at 62 on the second photo "au naturel", yet they say "But, seen in a black lycra vest and matching pants, she appears to have aged dramatically." To me she looks "svelte" and healthy, it's on the last "glamour" photo she looks far older.   animalaidsaintaubin.monsite.orange.fr/ Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful    Report

29/04/2008, 14:00 Frenchie Joined on 31/05/2007 2 Sèvres,79 Posts 3,543 Re: Julia Roberts " Au Natural" ! I agree with you chrisyine, to me she looks better " au naturel " than when they call her " glamourous" .. Trop maquillée, ça fait " pot de peinture" Happy    Report

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