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22/02/2007, 0:47 valmont Joined on 15/11/2005 Posts 19 Re: LD LINES AND THEIR 100% FARES INCREASE  Bugbear wrote:  valmont wrote: The UK government  should step in and dictate the implementation of  lower tariffs , tariffs  that reflect the distance being covered, that reflect the comfort- or not -  being provided. These high fares stop the free movement of people. I can't believe that you really mean that, if you do, what planet, exactly, are you from ? That's the sort of thing that China had under Chairman Mao, for goodness sake......................................get real... please.......................................   Not the planet:  rip-off Britain , if you want to know.  Fairness, rights, and every other moral value  have gone forever there. Money making at all costs philosophy rules. And which  planet exactly do you live on, instead ? Perhaps you enjoy being taken for a ride and having your pockets picked at will. If so Britain  is the right place for you to live. British Airways will love you, rail companies will adhore you, Ferry lines will kiss you, and so will  the mayor of London and its C charge.  Leave you car unattended for  30 seconds and see how much it ll cost you, pay road tax and be asked to pay again for the milage you cover. Pay for rubbish collection  but be fined  if your rubbish is  heavy. Have you and your car  be followed and photographed by a spy vehicle with camera, pay £ 4.00 for a one stop travel on the London underground, better still pay  for public transport but then walk instead to destination. Pay for the police that you never ever see on beat and  get no help when you become a victim. Save money all you life and then have it taken from you and your siblins through inheritance tax. Shall I carry on ?  No I do not want Mao, I want fairness and I am on the side of the consumers not on that of the big money making corporations.      Report

22/02/2007, 9:13 Sunday Driver Joined on 07/10/2005 Deux Sevres (79) Posts 2,752 Re: LD LINES AND THEIR 100% FARES INCREASE  valmont wrote: Fairness, rights, and every other moral value have gone forever there. Really?  I guess they must have repealed the Representation of the People Act so you don't have the fundamental democratic right to vote for your government any more? They must have also cancelled the Human Rights Act, which gave you the right to have your life protected by law.  That means the state can now kill you if they want to. And I suspect all the recent child protection legislation was just a joke and that the moral values under which the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre was set up don't exist - even though they've just cracked a major UK paedophile ring? The above is clearly good news, because with that lot out of the way, the government can really get down to dealing with the important things - like subsidising ferry charges, introducing special allowances for excess time parking, reviewing rubbish collection charges......     Waddya mean it's only Saturday......    Report

22/02/2007, 9:31 Bugbear Joined on 15/11/2006 Vienne (86) Posts 3,518 Re: LD LINES AND THEIR 100% FARES INCREASE  valmont wrote: Not the planet:  rip-off Britain , if you want to know.  Fairness, rights, and every other moral value  have gone forever there. Money making at all costs philosophy rules. And which  planet exactly do you live on, instead ? Perhaps you enjoy being taken for a ride and having your pockets picked at will. If so Britain  is the right place for you to live. British Airways will love you, rail companies will adhore you, Ferry lines will kiss you, and so will  the mayor of London and its C charge.  Leave you car unattended for  30 seconds and see how much it ll cost you, pay road tax and be asked to pay again for the milage you cover. Pay for rubbish collection  but be fined  if your rubbish is  heavy. Have you and your car  be followed and photographed by a spy vehicle with camera, pay £ 4.00 for a one stop travel on the London underground, better still pay  for public transport but then walk instead to destination. Pay for the police that you never ever see on beat and  get no help when you become a victim. Save money all you life and then have it taken from you and your siblins through inheritance tax. Shall I carry on ?  No I do not want Mao, I want fairness and I am on the side of the consumers not on that of the big money making corporations.   Sorry Valmont, but the 'Force' is clearly not with you. I think you need some help to get you back to reality......................... "Life is Short - Forgive Quickly - Love Truly - Laugh Uncontrollably"    Report

24/02/2007, 13:33 Brilec Joined on 03/08/2005 Surrey and Mayenne Posts 237 Re: LD LINES AND THEIR 100% FARES INCREASE  Sunday Driver wrote: The above is clearly good news, because with that lot out of the way, the government can really get down to dealing with the important things - like subsidising ferry charges, introducing special allowances for excess time parking, reviewing rubbish collection charges...... To be fair, I don't think he suggested that any government should subsidise ferry fares, just that the rediculously high fares sometimes charged should be prevented. £162 for a SINGLE fare on the tunnel for one ordinary car and two people really is taking the p***! Remember, the Uk is the only part of the EU which has to pay so much to travel to other parts. (with the exception of Eire). Public transport costs in the UK are over twice as much as in any other EU country (source Which? magazine). And try to get the police interested if you suffer a burglary in the UK, then compare the response to that when you inadvertantly stray 3mph over a 30 limit in your local high street at 3.00am. (Also SD, try riding a bike in North Wales at any time of the day). Maybe the ex-pats on here now never take the rose-coloured specs off. Brian.    Report

24/02/2007, 14:11 Bugbear Joined on 15/11/2006 Vienne (86) Posts 3,518 Re: LD LINES AND THEIR 100% FARES INCREASE  Brilec wrote: To be fair, I don't think he suggested that any government should subsidise ferry fares, just that the rediculously high fares sometimes charged should be prevented. Maybe the ex-pats on here now never take the rose-coloured specs off. So, if I can get this right, what you're suggesting is that the government should tell retailers and service providers what they must charge for the goods and services that they provide. Isn't that what communist dictatorships do ? Your second point is just presumptious and in most cases totally wrong. Regards, les yeux écarquillés, pas lunettes et complètement informé "Life is Short - Forgive Quickly - Love Truly - Laugh Uncontrollably"    Report

24/02/2007, 14:14 Dick Smith Joined on 23/08/2004 Surrey and Manche (Pays Mortainais) Posts 8,731 Re: LD LINES AND THEIR 100% FARES INCREASE Gary - what planet did they say they were on? I think I missed it. It must be the planet where you hate everything because the government is taking over and creating the nanny state and where the government really needs to control everything like prices on ferries. Rediculuous (sic). Regards Dick Smith Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground    Report

24/02/2007, 14:30 Bugbear Joined on 15/11/2006 Vienne (86) Posts 3,518 Re: LD LINES AND THEIR 100% FARES INCREASE Probably 2000 WR106, Its in the northern Milky Way, and is half the size of Pluto.    "Life is Short - Forgive Quickly - Love Truly - Laugh Uncontrollably"    Report

24/02/2007, 14:33 Dick Smith Joined on 23/08/2004 Surrey and Manche (Pays Mortainais) Posts 8,731 Re: LD LINES AND THEIR 100% FARES INCREASE I know it, you turn left at Uranus.* *This joke brought out of retirement for a special occasion. Regards Dick Smith Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground    Report

24/02/2007, 20:04 Sunday Driver Joined on 07/10/2005 Deux Sevres (79) Posts 2,752 Re: LD LINES AND THEIR 100% FARES INCREASE Remember, the Uk is the only part of the EU which has to pay so much to travel to other parts. (with the exception of Eire). Might that have anything to do with the UK and Eire having the geographical disadvantage of being offshore islands....? And try to get the police interested if you suffer a burglary in the UK, then compare the response to that when you inadvertantly stray 3mph over a 30 limit in your local high street at 3.00am. (Also SD, try riding a bike in North Wales at any time of the day). Our local beat officer had a remarkable personal burglary clear up record and was more than keen to investigate any complaint.  I suppose his proactive attitude was helped by the fact that we never bleated to him about the terrible injustice of being prosecuted for commiting a motoring offence. I used live a hour from North Wales and frequently rode up there on my bike to enjoy the countryside.  In common with the majority of motorists, I never encountered any problem in doing so. No rose coloured specs in our house....     Waddya mean it's only Saturday......    Report

25/02/2007, 16:55 Dave Plumb Joined on 28/04/2006 79 Posts 57 Re: LD LINES AND THEIR 100% FARES INCREASE Just renewed my P&O season ticket at £390 Dover, Cailas, Includes 3 over 5 day trips and 2 under 5, I can extend the short trips for £30 extra at time of booking, I know i can get it cheaper at Speed ferries but I have much more choice of sailing times and  I like the break it gives after driving down to dover B4 the six hour trip to 79.  I can choose any of the crossing times of day I want with 24hr notice. They dont show it on there website you have to ring up to book the season ticket, minimum pay for 5 return crossings and i seem to remember  you can transfer them to others as they just send you booking references to use when you want to book your crossing but havent tried it yet, not untill the pad is ready for friends and they wont have to feel like they are at a campsite cooking over an open fire and sleeping on camp beds, although when that time is near and it is a sunny period i'm sure I will get crushed in the rush. Dave    Report

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