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22/06/2005, 12:46 Deby Joined on 23/08/2004 Posts 638 RE: Answer from DEFRA: Is this a joke?? Bones, It if helps you are not alone in your frustrations. We thought we were organised.  We got our dog Rabies vaccinated and then waited two months for the blood tests to be performed. Then from that date we factored in the six month wait, so we could take our dog to England end of November. WRONG! Our lovely dog, Coco failed the blood test.  She did not build up enough antibodies!!!  So now she has been re-vaccinated and the earliest we can have her blood test done is September 1st, then there is the obligatory six month wait! Mince! So just to keep you posted even if you follow the guidelines, sometime these things don't run to plan.  Our dog is French - so I am not surprised, ha, ha Deby ps if Bob Geldof's Sail8 takes place, do you think I could sneak her on board someones boat!   http://www.chateau-de-clerac.com    Report

22/06/2005, 12:59 Teamedup Joined on 23/08/2004 Posts 5,950 RE: Answer from DEFRA: Is this a joke?? I hope your dog passes next time Deby    Report

22/06/2005, 13:29 Deimos Joined on 15/11/2005 France Posts 2,731 RE: Answer from DEFRA: Is this a joke?? Deby, You should be able to have a blood test done 1 month after the last booster. I.e. booster today, blood sample/test 22/Aug (at least that is what I believe is an acceptable time for Merial rabisin vaccine – which I though was what most vets tended to use. However, I am not a vet and thus would not contradict a vet (if they say 2 months). In the UK, when having my British dog rabies/tested the vet told me that its an 80% pass after 1st vaccination, and 90-something % after two (i.e. vaccinate, then booster 1 month later then blood test 1 month later). However, he did qualify that those figures were not based on very much data, but it was why the recommended vaccinate twice before blood test. Also did the same with my French dog (and vets did the 2nd rabies booster for free ‘cos they just do that sort of thing sometimes. Good luck with the 2nd test. Ian Copyright Deimos. All rights reserved    Report

27/06/2006, 22:13 Annie Joined on 22/06/2006 Sarthe, Le Mans Posts 7 Re: RE: Answer from DEFRA: Is this a joke?? For your information we have had our dogs vaccinated for rabies for the past 4 year in the Uk with Pet Passports, and we where advised by our vet, who also happens to be French, that we should have the booster jab done annually, so we are already on an annual regime. However they have yet to travel to France! Also clarification please, as we have had our dogs jabbed annually, we are intending to live in France permanently do visits back to the UK with the dogs, probably will be when we have extended periods or Christmas.  Therefore when the dogs jabs needed re-doing do we have to start again with Blood Tests to conform with the French way?  I am just about to get one of my dogs booster done, bringing it forward three months, if we are out there in the next couple of months, will I have to do the whole process again with Blood tests  If so I think I will wait! Anne    Report

28/06/2006, 8:49 andyh4 Joined on 15/06/2005 Frankfurt and Ardèche Posts 845 Re: RE: Answer from DEFRA: Is this a joke?? Too late for Bones, but for the benefit of anyone else who is bringing an animal to France, if you have the blood test done in the UK before you leave the clock starts ticking from then.   The six months is based on the old quarantine regs.  Basicly if your animal tests positive it could be due to a good injection or because it actaully has rabies.  If it is still alive after 6 months it couldonly be the former.   And remember, you may think you are never going back to the UK, but the future has a habit of playing nasty tricks. Andy    Report

30/06/2006, 21:55 Flora Joined on 30/06/2006 Posts 2 Re: RE: Answer from DEFRA: Is this a joke?? Advice please!  On entering the UK from France, what documents are required for a dog? I assume the pet passport contains all necessary information and no other certificates are needed, bar the French rabies certificate?  Do I have to carry previous vaccination certificates, blood test results etc? Please let me know of any pitfalls. Thanks,  Flora    Report

17/08/2006, 13:21 Lizzy Joined on 10/08/2006 Lancashire/Yorkshire Border.UK Posts 8 Re: RE: Answer from DEFRA: Is this a joke?? I have just spoken with Deffra regarding taking a dog to France and have been told he has to have Pet-passport-microchip Rabies vaccination Blood test one month later Rabies boosters kept up to date To re enter the UK If rabies boosters up to date he does not need a blood test. He has to be treated for ticks and tapeworm 24 hrs before the Journey.          Report

17/08/2006, 14:31 Renaud Joined on 23/08/2004 Barnes / Mirambeau Posts 589 Re: RE: Answer from DEFRA: Is this a joke?? How the world works or a canine conspiracy theory  Chris Patten comes back from Hong Kong, bringing his two dogs Whisky and Soda. He lives in his French house as the dogs are not permitted back in the UK without the six month stay in quarantine kennels.  These quarantine regulations never change – the ministry (MAFF) are advised by a committee stuffed with quarantine kennel owners and jobsworth civil servants.  The Northern Ireland peace process requires somebody to make the Royal Ulster Constabulary more acceptable to the Catholics (translate that as less dangerous to the IRA).  Tony Blair thinks “I know of a distinguished senior politician who is not Labour so the Prods can’t object and who is a Catholic so they won’t object either”.  As if by magic the quarantine regulations vanish in a puff of smoke (to the fury of quarantine kennel owners) to be replaced with pet passports etc. – the new six month  rule just being a piece of routine spite by the jobsworth civil servants - who naturally do not like loosing some arbitrary power.  Chris Patten comes back to the UK with Whisky and Soda and he accepts the RUC review job.  Postscript – After Northern Ireland, Tony Blair makes Chris Patter an EU commissioner thus condemning the Conservatives to Iain Duncan Smith.  Like him or loathe him, Tony Blair is the slickest act at Westminster. Gus www.relax-in-france.com    Report

21/01/2008, 11:23 mrbeeman Joined on 26/08/2004 Posts 6 Re: RE: Answer from DEFRA: Is this a joke?? I have just  gone through the system with my dog so that I can travel with her in future. My Vet says that althought the UK regs are longer than one year the French ask for boosters every year and therefore he recommended me to have yearly boosters to avoid problems of this nature. He furthermore says that the gestation period for rabies can be six months, therefore the UK six month rule is because antibodies in the blood could come from either the injection or a previous infection and the waiting period is to make sure it is not an infection. This actually means I can go to France now but not return before June 2008, therefore I cannot really take her out before June if I intent to return after a couple of weeks. Rob.    Report

21/01/2008, 11:58 Jacqui Too Joined on 23/08/2004 Shropshire / Dordogne 24 Posts 616 Re: RE: Answer from DEFRA: Is this a joke??  mrbeeman wrote: This actually means I can go to France now but not return before June 2008, Yes, this is correct therefore I cannot really take her out before June if I intent to return after a couple of weeks. Yes if you take her out to France now, you will have to keep her there until her 6 months are up, so if you just want a holiday of say 2 weeks you can not go until 2 weeks before her first return date, that is why you should always plan well ahead and give yourself minimum 7 1/2 months + you must take in account that the first blood test may be neg so you will require a further 1 month to repeat treatment Rob. Jackie At least with a spell-checker I can appear somewhat educated!    Report

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