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28/06/2009, 10:40 caroline Joined on 17/09/2007 Posts 47 setting up an association Hello Can you explain a little more please - what regime you are going to work under ? Is this how I charge or collect payments - as I don't know how to do that either. If everything has to go through the accounts, then that would seem like some straightforward book keeping. Although if there are other factors like, buying -mats - ie use of capital, then that might come under something else ? whew. Thanks for your help, I appreciate it a lot.    Report

28/06/2009, 11:00 chris pp Joined on 30/08/2005 Vienne '86' Posts 2,010 Re: setting up an association OK, so let's say you have your association with its legal requirement of three people on the Conseil d'Administration, this is one issue. There are obviously strict rules for accounting. The Association can purchase items that are required for the purposes of the Association that have been written in Statuts of the Association. These items are either for the running of the Association, such as stamps, stationary etc or they could be something like Yoga mats, these are the property of the Association, not an individual. The next issue is that you say, the Association is going to employ you, for this you need to be registered in the French system to perform that work. This will enable you to pay social charges etc which are obligatory or the Association finds a way to employ you full or part time with a contract of employment, then the Association deducts your social charges. What I'm getting at is that there are two separate things, the Association and you. I don't take any payments from PP, so someone may want to add something to this. Chris,   http://www.planetepassion.eu Association Planete Passion - French Wildlife in the English Language    Report

28/06/2009, 19:32 NormanH Joined on 10/04/2008 Posts 1,636 Re: setting up an association I used to run a cultural association, and I am at present employed by another one a bit like the French equivalent of the Workers Educational Association if that still exists. I am not certain that this is the best route to go down for you. As I said before in my area the local Foyer Rurale organises lots of classes such as Fencing,  Dancing Choral singing etc., and employs the teachers Or you could be an independent worker.    Report

29/06/2009, 19:39 caroline Joined on 17/09/2007 Posts 47 Re: setting up an association When I went to the Mairie I was put in touch with the chap who is in charge of the Sports and Dance sections and he said he has about seventy associations on his books. He asked me for details of an association. I don't know any that are bilingual that I can work within so I thought I will have to set up my own. If there is another way, then I'm very happy to hear about it ! Thank you    Report

29/06/2009, 20:15 Chancer Joined on 16/07/2006 Picardie, Sussex Posts 4,082 Re: setting up an association Not a facetious comment but how about talking a little French? If that is the only obstacle to you working within one of the existing societies then why not give it a go, it is always easier to converse when the subject (in your case yoga) is familiar to both parties, or are you only intending teaching yoga to English speakers?    Report

02/07/2009, 17:22 caroline Joined on 17/09/2007 Posts 47 Re: setting up an association I guess I could just turn up at a class that's already a going concern and ask them if I could work within their association ? I can't see the yoga class wanting anyone else that might take away their students ? But yes, I like the speaking French bit. thanks    Report

02/07/2009, 21:14 Lisleoise Joined on 15/12/2005 Périgord Vert (NW Dordogne) Posts 1,065 Re: setting up an association  NormanH wrote: You can be employed by an association, but if you are you cannot run it yourself. You could run an association but the officers can't be paid and it must be neither profit making nor in direct competition with another business. Why not see if your local Foyer Rurale would be interested in using your services and paying you? Not every town has a Foyer Rurale.  It's a matter of how each town/group of associations organises themselves.  As a councillor we are currently looking into setting up a Foyer Rurale to act as an umbrella for the 20+ associations in our village of 1000 habitants. Not as easy as it appears as the associations are diverse and some don't want their subventions from the Mairie possibly reduced because of how a FR would decide the split. It's also a matter of who would be the key players in the FR over and above those of each association and who would have the last say in how each association is run. As I said, not easy! Susie    Report

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