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12/06/2009, 13:49 Quillan Joined on 23/08/2004 Forum Moderator Posts 6,259 Re: Tax Shocker! It sounds to me but I might be wrong that they were taking out your social charges even though you didn't have a number. You still need to complete a French tax return for that period. I think you really do need some professional advice and contacting a French accountant may well be the way forward as I doubt that very few, if any, forum members have found themselves in the same position. You will need to find all your payslips for that period and ask for duplicates of those that are missing. They (the company you worked for) have to keep records for a certain time period which I can't remember exactly but my gut feeling is that you would be well within that time period so it won't be a problem other than getting them to actually do it. http://www.chambresdhote.com    Report

12/06/2009, 14:37 5-element Joined on 28/10/2006 Languedoc Posts 1,541 Re: Tax Shocker! Having been in the situation of all my bank accounts in France being suddenly frozen because of an alleged debt which I allegedly did not pay (it was a case of mistaken identity, which took ages to clear), the first piece of advice I would give Graeme, is DO NOT OPEN A FRENCH BANK ACCOUNT before all this is cleared. Otherwise, the Trésor public will just seize it without further ado - they have a central database with every single person's bank account numbers and are very fast in tracking them down. ( in my case, although having the name and the address wrong, they still simultaneously froze my 3 bank accounts from different banks and different parts of the country).... And they did this for two years running, in spite of me having been assured it had been sorted after the first year..... They cannot do that to your British assets, not unless they go through the courts. So my first port of call would be the Trésor Public who issued the letter, ring them up to find out exactly what this debt is concerned with. Sometimes you can find someone really co-operative at the other end of the phone, but not necessarily. You have to be firm and assertive. At least you can find out what this sum is supposed to cover, and then, get the professionals if necessary.    Report

05/07/2009, 9:05 Wibblywobbly Joined on 23/08/2004 Posts 84 Re: Tax Shocker! All I can say is that the same rules of common sense apply in France as they do in the UK. If someone told me that 'everything is being taken care of', or 'deductions are being made', then I would start asking questions there and then about who, what, why, when and how. I am currently permanently in the UK, and may well get a freelance job soon that allows me to work from home using online facilities. If this works out ok, the 'employer' may be agreeable to me living in France 180 days a year (I have a newly renovated house there). However, I would not even consider it until I had researched: UK tax implications French tax implications UK property rental implications Healthcare implications ..and a whole host of other implications. If I was going to be living in France more than 180 days then I would be asking a lot more questions, and would probably hand everything over to a French Accountant to ensure that I wasn't going to get stitched up. It pays to do your homework! Rob G www.hitenter.co.uk If money makes people happy then why do poor people smile?    Report

05/07/2009, 17:30 cooperlola Joined on 05/05/2006 72 - Sarthe - home of les 24 heures du Mans Posts 8,270 Re: Tax Shocker! A good accountant here is Angela Francoise at Bruno Hebert in Caen.  They are part of a big national company Group Fidorg.  You can e-mail her at a.francoise@bruno-hebert.eu  Others may know other people but she's pretty straight in my opinion and you can deal with the company by phone/fax and e-mail which may be helpful. My take is as per other posters - your company may well have deducted your cotisations (charges for pension, healthcare, social security etc etc) but not your tax so you are pretty certain to owe something. Norman is sniffy with everyone who doesn't know the French system completely inside and out.  Just ignore him when he's in that mode - that's what most of us do. Healthcare Issues Site "I couldn't sleep very well last night. Some noisy b*ggers going around in automobiles kept me awake." Ken Miles    Report

05/07/2009, 20:35 BIG MAC Joined on 25/02/2006 53 Mayenne / Hants Posts 1,258 Re: Tax Shocker! Not wanting to hijack the thread  but is paying your taxes in one hit at the end of the year the norm for say shop workers or labourers in France? I would have thought if this was the case then employers would offer to 'save' the money for employees and administer the fund out the interest? BIG MAC The frying Scotsman    Report

05/07/2009, 20:44 Clair Joined on 23/08/2004 Real Virtual French Person & Moderator - Lot (46) Posts 11,500 Re: Tax Shocker!  BIG MAC wrote: Not wanting to hijack the thread  but is paying your taxes in one hit at the end of the year the norm for say shop workers or labourers in France? I would have thought if this was the case then employers would offer to 'save' the money for employees and administer the fund out the interest? A French employer has nothing to do with the employee's income tax, as there is no PAYE equivalent in France. The employee calculates and settles his income tax. It can be paid in one hit, in two hits, in three hits or monthly. Clair The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven. Paradise Lost - John Milton    Report

05/07/2009, 20:48 NormanH Joined on 10/04/2008 Posts 1,967 Re: Tax Shocker! Instead of it being deducted by the employer, they declare their income and get a tax bill like everybody else. But that bill can be paid in 3 instalments, even in 12 I believe. the difference is that that is between the employee and the tax office. Tax is paid the following year and to the tax office. It is not handled at all by employers.    Report

05/07/2009, 21:03 BJSLIV Joined on 23/08/2004 Posts 2,836 Re: Tax Shocker! The numbers quoted by the original poster tie in with the expected monthly social charges of about 1000 Euros per month being deducted by the employer I suspect the 15,000 demand is in line with the calculation of tax liability with no allowances. I assume that this is done by the fisc so as to attract the attention of  the recalcitrant tax payer. The actual debt is probably in the region of 6 or 7000 Euros.      Report

05/07/2009, 21:03 Chancer Joined on 16/07/2006 Picardie, Sussex Posts 4,879 Re: Tax Shocker! Norman I was looking forward to reading your posting but it was dissapointingly non sniffy! Have you sold out, is it the hot weather? or are you busy enough sniffing with swine flu?    Report

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