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04/06/2009, 8:13 AnOther Joined on 05/12/2006 W of Cahors (46) Posts 6,747 Re: English Car in France There is far more to French compliance than emission standards ! According to THIS government site 2001 and 2002 models of the Mazda 121 were homologated in France but yours is presumably much older, (mid 80's possibly but then why mention 1996 emission standards ?) so you'll almost certainly have to get it passed by the DRIRE and that could range from virtually routine to next to impossible, tending firmly towards the latter if it is indeed a rare model. I stand by my advice then, forget it, what price sentimentality Counting down to retirement update: A bright light now beckons    Report

04/06/2009, 8:31 P2 Joined on 13/09/2006 Surrey & 31 (near Boulogne sur Gesse) Posts 584 Re: English Car in France  ErnieY wrote: I stand by my advice then, forget it, what price sentimentality Says Ernie who brought over his MGB    Report

04/06/2009, 8:31 Sunday Driver Joined on 07/10/2005 Deux Sevres (79) Posts 4,065 Re: English Car in France Simple answer is to write to Mazda France with a copy of your Australian registration document and ask them for an attestation de conformité. It'll cost you around 120€ but at least it'll tell you which elements of the car (if any) do not conform to French regulations.  From that, you can work out the likely cost of making the car compliant. You can then decide whether or not it's going to be worth shipping it halfway round the world.....     Waddya mean it's only Saturday......    Report

04/06/2009, 11:37 Clarisworkz Joined on 10/05/2009 Perth, Western Australia Posts 8 Re: English Car in France  ErnieY wrote: but yours is presumably much older, (mid 80's possibly but then why mention 1996 emission standards ?) so you'll almost certainly have to get it passed by the DRIRE and that could range from virtually routine to next to impossible, tending firmly towards the latter if it is indeed a rare model. I stand by my advice then, forget it, what price sentimentality This is my car. It's a 1996 Mazda 121 ... And I do appreciate your advice, so please don't think I'm dismissing it. Because it's an imported model here in Australia, and it came off the same manufacturing line as the European version, I will check out every aspect of homogolation and see if it does come up to french regulations.  P2 wrote: Says Ernie who brought over his MGB LOL, that made me laugh. I'm sure a modern car would pass DRIRE then  Sunday Driver wrote: Simple answer is to write to Mazda France with a copy of your Australian registration document and ask them for an attestation de conformité. It'll cost you around 120€ but at least it'll tell you which elements of the car (if any) do not conform to French regulations.  From that, you can work out the likely cost of making the car compliant Thanks for that info too SD. I will contact Mazda Australia and get this "attestation de conformité" done through them, as they would have better resources to do it with their french counterparts. You can then decide whether or not it's going to be worth shipping it halfway round the world..... It's strange what people want to take with them isn't it? As Ernie said, it's sentimental, and you really can't put a price on that. I could arrive in France and buy a used 121, but it wouldn't be the same. It's not my 121. I've had my little buggy for 13 years now (from new) and have always looked after it. I want to turn it into a classic (like an MGB). It's currently being worked on now, paint job and some mechanical stuff (new clutch and re-syncing the gearbox) and I'm sure it won't be too expensive to get it up to french specs.  At best, DRIRE will pass it and I'll drive it on special occasions. At worst, It'll sit somewhere on the grounds of my home (longere) and be a conversation piece. Or I'll turn it into a racecar and challenge Fiat Unos ...     Time flies like an arrow ... Fruit flies like a Banana ... Le temps file comme une flèche … mouches à fruit comme une banane - G.Marx    Report

04/06/2009, 12:58 AnOther Joined on 05/12/2006 W of Cahors (46) Posts 6,747 Re: English Car in France  P2 wrote: Says Ernie who brought over his MGB Not quite the same is it. A short ferry trip followed by a pleasant drive down through France. €150 for a C of C (no need for DRIRE), £40 for headlights, and €180 for registration, all fully researched and quantified in advance as a result of which both CT and registration formalities were completed in a day. Good luck in turning a Mazda 121 into a classic  Counting down to retirement update: A bright light now beckons    Report

04/06/2009, 13:27 P2 Joined on 13/09/2006 Surrey & 31 (near Boulogne sur Gesse) Posts 584 Re: English Car in France  ErnieY wrote:  P2 wrote: Says Ernie who brought over his MGB Not quite the same is it. A short ferry trip followed by a pleasant drive down through France. €150 for a C of C (no need for DRIRE), £40 for headlights, and €180 for registration, all fully researched and quantified in advance as a result of which both CT and registration formalities were completed in a day. Good luck in turning a Mazda 121 into a classic  No I know but I bet you have quite an attachment to your B Paul    Report

04/06/2009, 19:04 AnOther Joined on 05/12/2006 W of Cahors (46) Posts 6,747 Re: English Car in France After conveying me well in excess of 200,000 miles over 22 years without significant breakdown you could say that If only other things in life were so reliable ! Counting down to retirement update: A bright light now beckons    Report

06/06/2009, 6:33 Nick Trollope Joined on 23/08/2004 Broons, Dept 22 Posts 2,682 Re: English Car in France  gosub wrote:  Nick Trollope wrote: 6 months, fine (check UK insurance). 6 months plus 1 day, problem and he must reregister. Plus, it is "in any 12 month period", so if the total number of days in France in 12 months exceeds 6 months, etc etc. Car must remain UK-legal (tax MOT, UK insurance, etc) and comply with French rules (beambenders, warning triangle, reflective jacket), for all of its time in France. Assuming that he is British too, he must have an EU licence (Although unless you are very old, he is likely to already have one!!)   From the goverment website: Q. Un ressortissant d'un pays étranger devant séjourner en France pour une période de plusieurs mois doit-il y faire immatriculer son véhicule ? A. L'immatriculation d'un véhicule dans un département français ne s'impose à un ressortissant étranger qu'à partir du moment où il y a déclaré son domicile.   Where does residency come into it? Read the original posting.     Nick www.aplaceinfrance.com    Report

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