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20/05/2008, 14:28 Russethouse Joined on 23/08/2004 Forum Moderator Posts 9,495 Re: 2007 tax return for wife living in France, husband commuting to UK during the week Doesn't a lot of this depend 'how' he is self employed, sole trader, partnership or Limited company ? www.quimperclub.org 99    Report

20/05/2008, 14:33 cooperlola Joined on 05/05/2006 72 - Sarthe - home of les 24 heures du Mans Posts 6,315 Re: 2007 tax return for wife living in France, husband commuting to UK during the week Quite possibly R/H.  However, when I was self employed myself, back in the day, when not working, I still paid my NI contributions regardless (hence I had my own E106 when I moved here).  It sounds very complicated to me! Healthcare Issues Site    Report

20/05/2008, 14:44 Russethouse Joined on 23/08/2004 Forum Moderator Posts 9,495 Re: 2007 tax return for wife living in France, husband commuting to UK during the week I was thinking along the lines that if he is Limited in theory isn't he employed by the company? Also, don't you have to pay contributions even if you are NOT working ? www.quimperclub.org 99    Report

20/05/2008, 14:47 cooperlola Joined on 05/05/2006 72 - Sarthe - home of les 24 heures du Mans Posts 6,315 Re: 2007 tax return for wife living in France, husband commuting to UK during the week  Russethouse wrote: Also, don't you have to pay contributions even if you are NOT working ? Well, I certainly believed so.  And if you're not earning, it's a very small cost. Healthcare Issues Site    Report

20/05/2008, 14:50 ErnieY Joined on 05/12/2006 Nr Prayssac (Lot) Posts 2,952 Re: 2007 tax return for wife living in France, husband commuting to UK during the week I think the statement that he is not currently paying NI clearly indicates that he is not an 'employee' in any sense of the word. No, you do not have to pay NI if not working but you can pay voluntary class 3 contributions which essentially keep your pension unbroken. I paid class 3 for the 12 years or so that I was working outside the UK so my pension record is still 100%. My doctor said one drink per day, I can live with that !    Report

20/05/2008, 15:01 ErnieY Joined on 05/12/2006 Nr Prayssac (Lot) Posts 2,952 Re: 2007 tax return for wife living in France, husband commuting to UK during the week  cooperlola wrote: Quite possibly R/H.  However, when I was self employed myself, back in the day, when not working, I still paid my NI contributions regardless (hence I had my own E106 when I moved here).  It sounds very complicated to me! Your voluntary NI payments (class 3 ?) whilst not working were irrelevent to getting an E106 Coops unless it was during the 3 tax years prior to applying for it, and then they would have had to have been class 2, that is the yardstick, 2 full tax years of full contributions in the previous 3 years. I'm rather surprised at you not knowing this My doctor said one drink per day, I can live with that !    Report

20/05/2008, 16:00 Deborah Joined on 06/06/2005 Posts 9 Re: 2007 tax return for wife living in France, husband commuting to UK during the week Youre right it is a bit odd and yes I got my E106 on the back of my own NI record. However I would have thought that our situation vis a vis hubbie working (or will be again soon in my case) in the UK and therefore 'tax resident' there whilst wife/family are in France, is quite common nowadays although obviously our situation is currently more complicated .... In any case I still have to do the tax declaration by 30th May so I reckon the best course of action is to declare all my bits and pieces here and in the UK and explain my husband's situation to the tax office and once his situation is back to normal, take some professional advice....    Report

20/05/2008, 16:18 ErnieY Joined on 05/12/2006 Nr Prayssac (Lot) Posts 2,952 Re: 2007 tax return for wife living in France, husband commuting to UK during the week Just to correct one point Deborah, tax residency can be a complicated issue and the simple fact that a person is working in UK does not in itself infer that he is UK tax resident. The difficult factors in your case are that he is self employed and that he spends so much time in UK, which is why I, and others, think you need some professional advice.   My doctor said one drink per day, I can live with that !    Report

20/05/2008, 16:25 Deborah Joined on 06/06/2005 Posts 9 Re: 2007 tax return for wife living in France, husband commuting to UK during the week Okay thanks - obviously bank and building society interest is reported under B: AUTRES REVENUES DE VALEURS MOBILIERES ET REVENUES ASSIMILES; what about income from UK unit trusts?      Report

20/05/2008, 17:27 cooperlola Joined on 05/05/2006 72 - Sarthe - home of les 24 heures du Mans Posts 6,315 Re: 2007 tax return for wife living in France, husband commuting to UK during the week  ErnieY wrote:  cooperlola wrote: Quite possibly R/H.  However, when I was self employed myself, back in the day, when not working, I still paid my NI contributions regardless (hence I had my own E106 when I moved here).  It sounds very complicated to me! Your voluntary NI payments (class 3 ?) whilst not working were irrelevent to getting an E106 Coops unless it was during the 3 tax years prior to applying for it, and then they would have had to have been class 2, that is the yardstick, 2 full tax years of full contributions in the previous 3 years. I'm rather surprised at you not knowing this Sorry Ernie, I was not clear about this.  I was technically self employed but for the last few months in the UK did not take on any work, but continued to pay the self employed stamp which - if you don't show a profit - is pretty cheap and gets you up to 18 months' E106 (not 30 as for those on the employed people's stamp) if it's paid up fully.  Hence the relevance to (the other) Deborah's situation! Healthcare Issues Site    Report

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