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06/06/2007, 20:49 Andy57 Joined on 04/06/2007 Hindon, wiltshire Posts 15 Re: Thinking Of Moving to France and Buying a Lake Loads of lakes advertising both on the net in the carp mags and on various carp forums eg.http://www.anglinglines.com/ also very hard top get a good google ranking when Carp- Fishing- Holiday etc are used so much in searches. Having celebrity mates will help, But! if you don't have big fish they will have nothing to shout about and 20's and 30's don't cut it with the angling public.A fair percentage (most)of those travelling to France have very unreal expectations, they may have only caught fish to 15lb in the UK yet come to France and think they will be stacking 40's and 50's up like breeze blocks. Your username suggests your more of a river angler, so I wonder how much you know about the Carp fishing world. I have a good knowledge of what is needed to make a fishery work in France and know a lot (not all) of the pitfalls aand would be happy to exchange PM's if you like.      Report

08/06/2007, 20:52 Panda Joined on 06/02/2007 Charente, Vienne, Les Arcs Posts 527 Re: Thinking Of Moving to France and Buying a Lake Hi Bob Yes we did sell our first property and did make a good profit, thanks.  In our new place we now have a slightly larger lake than the last one but we have no intentions of running a business.  We went this time for a beautiful lake and pretty dire property, so all effort is in making the property what we want, it was the only way we could afford to have a house overlooking the lake which was always the aim.  From my laptop I can look out now and just make out OH and FIL sitting happily fihsing the evening away! There are loads of lakes on www.frenchpropertylinks.com, chose your area and then select lakes as type, this will give you lots of food for thought, we bought both ours from this site privatley. Good luck Panda    Report

28/06/2007, 22:56 rusheslake Joined on 29/03/2005 Twixt Laval & Le Mans (72) Posts 42 Re: Thinking Of Moving to France and Buying a Lake Having been in this game since 2003 and located in Sarthe I can only advise you to think long and hard about it. Firstly I would consider your decision of Limoges... there are lots and lots of lakes down there and if you research on why so many of them in this area come back onto the market then you will find out that anglers, unless you have 50lb+ fish, fantastic facilities and do fantastic food... they arent willing to do the journey down there.. Dont think it is anything but hard graft... long winters upto your neck in mud believe me... been there got the tshirt. Prices are much lower for lakes in the Limousin for a reason! If you need a mortgage then forget it... you have 26 weeks a year to make your money and unless you can pull in a regular 4/5 anglers a week then you arent going to do it. The taxes are daunting... We survive (there are just the 2 of us & no borrowings) but there are no frills believe me! I am attaching an article you might also find interesting... Food for thought perhaps? ... The Limousin Times 19/6 - 25/6/2007 Fishermen Netted Yet another English proprietor of a Limousin lake has fallen foul of the laws of the land. Numerous English in the region have been found by the gendarmes to be using their lakes for illegal fishing activities. Mr 'W' has a holiday home in Fromental and divides his time between Great Britain and France. Mr W owns a fishing lake or 'etang' de la Chapelle in the commune of Dompierre les Eglises as well as renting etang des justices at Saint Sornin Leulac. Mr W is charged with illegally renting these lakes to other British holiday makers for Carp fishing. After 2 months of investigations the gendarmes finally decided to take action last week. Mr W has an web site where he offers his lakes for rent at €1000 per week. Not only are the lakes not 'closed water',that is to say 'closed' by means of fish grills that prevent fish from public waters entering private lakes, but his business is also completely unregistered. Via his website Mr W offered fishing equipment for sale or hire as well as airport pick up services as part of his 'package'. It is also alleged that an illegal employee was being used to run the business. A joint operation including tax officers, employment agencies and river authorities. On the 12th June 4 Brits were caught fishing illegally at etang la Chapelle and a further 3 at the etang Justice. The fishermen had no permits and were using illegal rods. Mr W's computer has been seized as part of the investigation and a joint dossier is being compiled by URSSAF,BCR,CSP AND COLT. If convicted Mr W could face up to 3 years in prison and €45,000 fine.    Report

01/07/2007, 19:32 Barbel Bob Joined on 13/05/2007 Dept 24 Posts 122 Re: Thinking Of Moving to France and Buying a Lake  rusheslake wrote: Having been in this game since 2003 and located in Sarthe I can only advise you to think long and hard about it. Firstly I would consider your decision of Limoges... there are lots and lots of lakes down there and if you research on why so many of them in this area come back onto the market then you will find out that anglers, unless you have 50lb+ fish, fantastic facilities and do fantastic food... they arent willing to do the journey down there.. Dont think it is anything but hard graft... long winters upto your neck in mud believe me... been there got the tshirt. Prices are much lower for lakes in the Limousin for a reason! If you need a mortgage then forget it... you have 26 weeks a year to make your money and unless you can pull in a regular 4/5 anglers a week then you arent going to do it. The taxes are daunting... We survive (there are just the 2 of us & no borrowings) but there are no frills believe me! I am attaching an article you might also find interesting... Food for thought perhaps? ... The Limousin Times 19/6 - 25/6/2007 Fishermen Netted Yet another English proprietor of a Limousin lake has fallen foul of the laws of the land. Numerous English in the region have been found by the gendarmes to be using their lakes for illegal fishing activities. Mr 'W' has a holiday home in Fromental and divides his time between Great Britain and France. Mr W owns a fishing lake or 'etang' de la Chapelle in the commune of Dompierre les Eglises as well as renting etang des justices at Saint Sornin Leulac. Mr W is charged with illegally renting these lakes to other British holiday makers for Carp fishing. After 2 months of investigations the gendarmes finally decided to take action last week. Mr W has an web site where he offers his lakes for rent at €1000 per week. Not only are the lakes not 'closed water',that is to say 'closed' by means of fish grills that prevent fish from public waters entering private lakes, but his business is also completely unregistered. Via his website Mr W offered fishing equipment for sale or hire as well as airport pick up services as part of his 'package'. It is also alleged that an illegal employee was being used to run the business. A joint operation including tax officers, employment agencies and river authorities. On the 12th June 4 Brits were caught fishing illegally at etang la Chapelle and a further 3 at the etang Justice. The fishermen had no permits and were using illegal rods. Mr W's computer has been seized as part of the investigation and a joint dossier is being compiled by URSSAF,BCR,CSP AND COLT. If convicted Mr W could face up to 3 years in prison and €45,000 fine. Mr W sounds like he was either very stupid or he deserves all he gets. After reading all of the very good advice on this forum and doing research, I have decided that this business may not be for me :-( I have not ruled it out completely as it depends on the details of the deal. Thanks to all who took time out and posted their advice, it is much appreciated. Bob.    Report

04/07/2007, 4:29 Motorhead Joined on 23/08/2004 Posts 320 Re: Thinking Of Moving to France and Buying a Lake Here's something that might keep you occupied in the meantime http://www.ifm.org.uk/training/diploma/ "If we moved in next door yer lawn would die!" - L. Kilmister     Report

17/03/2008, 1:38 rigga1 Joined on 17/03/2008 Posts 1 Re: Thinking Of Moving to France and Buying a Lake Hi Bob not sure if you could make a living in the limoges area  have a house in a place called ecurat about 1hr 10 min from limoges airport we have quite a few lakes around here and i have yet to see anyone fishing the private lakes yes the council run ones the odd person even the rivers last w/e first week of the trout season i only came accross about 12 people im a trout man but my sons fish all over the uk corse fishing they are hoping to fish obver here this year i do bump into people from the uk  comming over for weeks at a time but again its just the odd few  good luck  David    Report

20/06/2008, 15:53 beretta682 Joined on 20/06/2008 stoke on trent Posts 1 Re: Thinking Of Moving to France and Buying a Lake hi just wonted to know ho you are getting on with your dream i have the same dream and do not now were to start ive got square iyssss looking trevor    Report

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