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20/11/2007, 16:21 Iceni Joined on 23/08/2004 Lot 46 Posts 3,019 Re: Moving with a reluctant teen? - views welcome  Jura wrote: ............... but is yet to find work becuase if you cannot speak French in our region doors get slammed in your face. Discriminatory is an understatement in my opinion after our experiences. If I ran a business (in any country) and needed staff why on earth should I employ someone with whom I cannot converse or who could not be able to converse with colleagues and/or customers?  Your comments sound very much like those of the doting parent insisting that their offspring was the only one in step. John and probably   Di How do I get MY free website?    Report

20/11/2007, 16:39 Clair Joined on 23/08/2004 ------- Forum Moderator ------- Lot (46) Posts 7,702 Re: Moving with a reluctant teen? - views welcome  Iceni wrote:  Jura wrote: ... but is yet to find work becuase if you cannot speak French in our region doors get slammed in your face. Discriminatory is an understatement in my opinion after our experiences. If I ran a business (in any country) and needed staff why on earth should I employ someone with whom I cannot converse or who could not be able to converse with colleagues and/or customers? John, you took the words out of my keyboard! Clair Real Virtual French Person    Report

20/11/2007, 17:16 Jura Joined on 28/11/2005 Posts 803 Re: Moving with a reluctant teen? - views welcome Oh for gods sake, here we go again. Maybe it is because I come from a multi-cultural society where I often worked alongside foreigners who could not speak a word of english yet they were given a job. That's how they improved their english...in the workplace!. And take a look at the UK and Ireland today; loads of Polish immigrants with no english language skills at all yet it is 'racist' to refuse them a job. Yet they have jobs. I doubt you would be allowed to refuse an immigrant a job in the UK today simply because they could not speak english. I am not 'doting' in the sense you make out, and please do not be so condescending. My son is making every effort. Save your sarcasm for those retirees who come here, live in British enclaves and never choose to speak a word of French. And by god we know a few. Di, just be aware that this country does not suit everyone. And judging your daughters feelings I would either wait or leave her where you are . This country is not that great that it is worth upsetting your family over .            Report

20/11/2007, 18:01 BJSLIV Joined on 23/08/2004 Posts 2,494 Re: Moving with a reluctant teen? - views welcome loads of Polish immigrants with no english language skills at all  But the problem is that English parents moving to France , often in the hope of a better life, do not envisage their children toilet cleaning, fruit picking, or chicken gutting. These are the jobs that the foreign workers in Herefordshire a happy to accept. They are not often not bothered about improving their language skills, they simply want tto earn an income which is worth a small fortune compared to what they would get back home There are menial jobs available in France , perhaps only on a short-term basis. These are the jobs that longterm RMIsts are forced to take to maintain their income.    Report

20/11/2007, 18:21 Just Katie Joined on 11/03/2006 Posts 3,764 Re: Moving with a reluctant teen? - views welcome Hello Di And welcome to the forum Would you not consider meeting half way with your daughter.  For example, why not choose an area which is more similar to your current area.  I really think it would be very difficult for a 'townie' to accept the country way of life, especially in their teen years.  In fact, my heart bleeds for teenagers in the countryside, being a 'townie' I dont know how they cope, although I would perfectly accept that way of life now............ I think When you have chosen your area, why not 'move' there by renting a property from May/June when her GCSE's finish until September and see how she settles.  If she gets in with a french crowd, she may not want to come home which will leave you with a choice of International school or French mainstream (if they will take her) However, have you thought of her life in France beyond schooling?  Reading from the posts on this thread, I dont think there is much in the way of opportunity.  Anyway, goodluck. The immigrant in the attic    Report

20/11/2007, 18:23 Jura Joined on 28/11/2005 Posts 803 Re: Moving with a reluctant teen? - views welcome BJSLIV; I was merely making a point, from what I have experienced in the past. I just wonder how much longer that the French will be able to maintain their intolerance of non-french speaking foreigners coming to live here whilst maintaining their membership of the increasingly borderless EU. Di;  if you come here and get it wrong there will be plenty of people on this forum to lay the blame at your feet. Think hard before you come here and, especially, before you bring your kids here. By the way; can you speak any French at all?. God help you if you cannot. Don't assume that moving into a community of ex-pat Brits to be the answer. In the long run you will still be in France. Katie...we are in agreement for a change!. Well said. But if the girl cannot speak any French at this stage then, unless she starts cramming, she will have not much hope here. And I suspect she is not keen to do so.    Report

20/11/2007, 18:43 raindog Joined on 26/09/2007 HERAULT Posts 796 Re: Moving with a reluctant teen? - views welcome  Jura wrote: By the way; can you speak any French at all?. God help you if you cannot. Isn't this a little over the top? France is, after all, a non English speaking country. What do you expect? sociability is just a big smile and a big smile is nothing but teeth    Report

20/11/2007, 18:49 Jura Joined on 28/11/2005 Posts 803 Re: Moving with a reluctant teen? - views welcome France is not only a member but the founding member of a largely non-french speaking and borderless Europe. She no longer stands alone, whether she likes it or not. I wonder how many people posting here, who live here in France, would still be here if being fluent in French - to French standard -was a requirement to not only living here but buying property here.      Report

20/11/2007, 19:03 raindog Joined on 26/09/2007 HERAULT Posts 796 Re: Moving with a reluctant teen? - views welcome errr....eh? sociability is just a big smile and a big smile is nothing but teeth    Report

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