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19/11/2008, 18:26 Cathy Joined on 07/03/2006 Mostly near Bordeaux; Sometimes near Bristol Posts 2,066 Book on paying tax in France Can I have some recommendations for a book (in English) about tax systems in France, including how to move from paying tax in the UK to paying tax in France? I have 'Payer mois d'impots pour Les Nuls' but it would be great if there was an English version.  I've looked on Amazon etc but you can't beat personal recommendations.   Cathy ----- Your children won't remember you ironing their pyjamas but they will remember you reading them a bedside story.    Report

19/11/2008, 18:29 Clair Joined on 23/08/2004 Forum Moderator based in the Lot (46) Posts 8,040 Re: Book on paying tax in France This might help to begin with: http://www.french-property.com/guides/france/finance-taxation/taxation/ Clair Real Virtual French Person    Report

19/11/2008, 18:36 Will Joined on 22/09/2004 Sussex & 50 (Mortainais) Posts 5,169 Re: Book on paying tax in France The problem with books about things like taxation is that they are often out of date as soon as they are published. The link above gives a useful overview, but for more detail the only book that can really be recommended is this one: http://www.pkfguernsey.com/index.php?page=53 It is updated every year. Will intentionally blank signature http://www.vienormande.com    Report

19/11/2008, 18:42 Cathy Joined on 07/03/2006 Mostly near Bordeaux; Sometimes near Bristol Posts 2,066 Re: Book on paying tax in France Spot on.  Parfait.  Thank you Clair and Will - both of these ideas are just what I need to start my research.   Cathy ----- Your children won't remember you ironing their pyjamas but they will remember you reading them a bedside story.    Report

08/12/2008, 22:41 Casper Slides Joined on 30/08/2007 Charente Posts 8 Re: Book on paying tax in France I've been watching a few French forums for British ex-pats for a while now and I am terribly confused by the expats in France. It seems that you are all queueing up to pay tax in France when you should be doing your utmost not to pay any tax at all - what's the deal? I spend the majority of my year in Spain where not paying tax is the national sport. Nobody there would dream of putting their hands up and saying "look I earned this much last year how do I pay tax on it?" I spend the rest of the year in France where I legally do not have to pay much in the way of tax (certainly nothing on income) so it does not really affect me. However, from all the people that I speak to it seems that the national sport amongst the British ex-pats here is either discovering new taxes to pay or denouncing other ex-pats who they think might not be paying their "fair share".  Is it that British ex-pats in France are overtly honest or that they are incredibly small minded and want to ensure that their neighbours suffer as much as them?    Report

09/12/2008, 6:54 parsnips Joined on 28/08/2008 Posts 117 Re: Book on paying tax in France  casperslides wrote: I've been watching a few French forums for British ex-pats for a while now and I am terribly confused by the expats in France. It seems that you are all queueing up to pay tax in France when you should be doing your utmost not to pay any tax at all - what's the deal? I spend the majority of my year in Spain where not paying tax is the national sport. Nobody there would dream of putting their hands up and saying "look I earned this much last year how do I pay tax on it?" I spend the rest of the year in France where I legally do not have to pay much in the way of tax (certainly nothing on income) so it does not really affect me. However, from all the people that I speak to it seems that the national sport amongst the British ex-pats here is either discovering new taxes to pay or denouncing other ex-pats who they think might not be paying their "fair share".  Is it that British ex-pats in France are overtly honest or that they are incredibly small minded and want to ensure that their neighbours suffer as much as them? Hi casperslides,          I spend some of my time helping new arrivals (usually retired people) from the UK . In my experience they are usually paying tax on their pensions and savings in the UK at the UK's inflated rates, but many ,fearing the unknown, do try to remain invisible to the french taxman(an ultimately futile effort,if they pay local taxes or are in the health system).  I can do a simulated french tax assessment for them which ,almost invariably, shows that they will be less taxed in the french system.          UK pensioners are in a very advantageous position taxwise in france because they do not pay social contributions on their pensions , and if ,for example they have rents from the UK or a small govt. pension, they get full personal allowances there.           Finding out as much as possible about the french system (which is complicated,so therefore has lots of loopholes) is essential if people are to maximise their advantages by rearranging their finances.           Enquiring about the system is not the same as rushing to  volunteer to join it.           As for the ex-pats who want to get their neighbours caught for taxes, they are obviously catching the french love of equality by levelling down.      Report

09/12/2008, 11:43 sweet 17 Joined on 05/08/2006 charente maritime Posts 3,201 Re: Book on paying tax in France Parsnips, I wouldn't normally qualify your informed contributions but I must just butt in this once and say that you do pay social contributions on any annuities you have.    Report

09/12/2008, 12:08 dr orloff Joined on 13/04/2008 Posts 103 Re: Book on paying tax in France The process can look daunting but with a smidgeon of good advice it is actually very straightforward for most people. You could try describing your situation in a bit more detail and asking about the implications.  You don't have to say what you earn, just the different types of income you have.    Report

09/12/2008, 13:36 parsnips Joined on 28/08/2008 Posts 117 Re: Book on paying tax in France  sweet 17 wrote: Parsnips, I wouldn't normally qualify your informed contributions but I must just butt in this once and say that you do pay social contributions on any annuities you have. Hi,  I was trying to be brief; in fact ,if your annuity is the result of a defined contribution occupational scheme, it should be declared as "pension" and provided you are entitled to E121, will not be subject to CSGetc.  Only if your annuity is from a purely personal private scheme to which no one else has ever contributed, should it be declared in "rentes viageges" and subject to CSGetc.    Report

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