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19/03/2008, 22:52 scotslassie Joined on 06/03/2008 Posts 37 ENGLISH COCKER SPANIELS Are cocker spaniels hard to find in France and has anyone an idea of price?  The reason I ask is I have a cracking blue roan dog and if I move permanently I am trying to think of ways to earn a living.  I know it wouldnt bring in a fortune but I always intended to breed from him anyway, just not commercially.  If anyone has a rough idea this would be helpful.  I know of a dog breeder who moved to France for the lifestyle etc but they get a better price for the pups in the UK so take the *** back to have the litter in England..... not so nice for the *** though and I reckon it would be way too much hassle for me! This breed are adorable -  medium size dogs with great personalities and temperaments. Bramble is our second spaniel and is very talkative (tries to communicate with us using some very strange noises!) amd great fun .Any advice appreciated.  I only showed mine once at 6 months but he won the mixed pup class without even a bath or brush, much to the professionals annoyance especially as I only went to watch!   What regulations would I have to comply with for breeding?    Report

19/03/2008, 23:00 Christine Animal Joined on 14/05/2005 Deux-Sèvres Posts 4,145 Re: ENGLISH COCKER SPANIELS There are plenty of Cocker Spaniels in France, here's a site for them with a forum for rehoming http://www.cockers-forever.com/   also quite a few on Rescue http://rescue.forumactif.com/search.forum?search_keywords=Cocker&show_results=topics animalaidsaintaubin.monsite.orange.fr/ Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful    Report

25/03/2008, 0:17 scotslassie Joined on 06/03/2008 Posts 37 Re: ENGLISH COCKER SPANIELS Hi Christine Thanks for the info.  I looked at the sites, although translation not easy!  How could anyone abandon such adorable dogs?  If I had a few acres and a big kitchen I would have at least 4 or 5 !    Report

25/03/2008, 21:14 Anna Joined on 23/08/2004 Dordogne Posts 171 Re: ENGLISH COCKER SPANIELS Hi Just adore Cockers so couldn't resist posting this photo of our departed Blue Roan! Don't know whereabouts you're originally from Scotslassie but we bought our Cocker from the breeder, Patricia Shaw from Barry, near Dundee in 1989. We had him for 14 years, latterly in France. We called him Sweep (as in Sootie and Sweep!) and he was a real rascally character although his mother was "Lochdene White Dove"...Crufts Winner. We kept reminding him of that fact...to no avail!! We've not seen many Cockers in our part of the Dordogne. We're near Riberac. Seen 1 Blue Roan and just a few tan coloured.    Report

11/04/2008, 0:23 scotslassie Joined on 06/03/2008 Posts 37 Re: ENGLISH COCKER SPANIELS He's gorgeous!  I will try to find a pic of mine, wee Bramble.  He is darker blue roan than yours.  We're in Blairgowrie but the breeder I purchased from was near Arbroath.  Lovely lady whose husband bred German Shepherds and Pointers.  He also showed them too.  Wish I could remember their names but it will come to me.  They also told me that the roans have the best natures.  Self colours like black or tan can be a bit dominant and snappy, though I think half the time its the way they are brought up. Did yours give you dirty looks or frown at you - mine has perfected the art!  He is a little monster but we adore him.  I am sure I made enquiries with the lady that you got yours from but her next litter wasnt born and I was devastated at losing the old one and wanted a pup asap.     Report

11/04/2008, 12:11 valB Joined on 21/11/2007 Posts 140 Re: ENGLISH COCKER SPANIELS I have an English lttle lady called Molly. She thirteen years old now and partially deaf and blind and a little bit Arthritic but she loves to wander around our garden and sit in the sun. She has outl ived two of our Boxer dogs and is now " boss " of a rescue French Labrador who we named Murphy. I know we will not have her for too much longer now but she has honestly been the best dog we have ever had, so obedient and loving. We rescued her when she was two years old so she has been with us for eleven years now and it will be such a very sad day when we lose her...it does not bear thinking about.    Report

11/04/2008, 21:04 Anna Joined on 23/08/2004 Dordogne Posts 171 Re: ENGLISH COCKER SPANIELS Hi Scotslassie, It's a small world really! We lived in Kinclaven, near Ballathie House Hotel, between Blairgowrie and Stanley, for 25 years until we came over here in 2001 !! I do agree that the blue roans have really got beautiful natures. They are adorable! ValB, I do empathise so much with you. It's always so sad when we have to say goodbye but we have to be comforted by the fact that we have given our pal a good home and they have given us their all. We have always found that, for us, it works to help ease the pain to go out and give another dog a home to fill the void. It's amazing how quickly the pain eases (of course, you never forget!) when you are occupied with the needs of another. Hopefully, you will have Molly for a good while yet.      Report

11/04/2008, 22:14 scotslassie Joined on 06/03/2008 Posts 37 Re: ENGLISH COCKER SPANIELS Well, well, small world indeed.  I work at another nice hotel, Lands of Loyal and live in Rattray, Blair with partner, labrador, cocker and two previously ferile cats which are killing machines but adore people!. The lady who owns the field I rent for my horses lives out Kercott Beats (?) past Kinclaven but on way to Murthly (huge new house on hill) so I have a reasonable knowledge of your neck of the woods although you could be on the Stanley road if you're actually closer to Ballathie...  Do you still have a home in this area or just family to visit?  I am confused as you are travelling back to France to a new house but you have pets with you and are in Scotland!!  Have you been in the art Gallery in the Wellmeadow?.  The couple that own it bought a house in France a few years ago and stayed over there for almost 6 months.  They sold up and came back but would probably go back to France if the family and grandchildren leave this area.  I cant remember where abouts they were but they seemed surrounded by Brits! Val,  I lost Bobby a few years ago and still miss him very much.  He moved 9 times with me in his lifetime and went everywhere I went, to the point of howling the entire street down  if I even considered leaving him behind.  Poor neighbours in his younger days when I worked in an office and had a terrace house!! He was happy so long as he got left in the car but not the house so came to the pictures, shopping, courses for work, just to give the neighbourhood some peace!  In his latter days, he got to ride out with me on the farm I kept the horses at and loved it, often attempting to chase deer across a 50 acres field and giving up half way across!!  When he eventually couldnt manage to ride out (or it was raining-hated the rain) he used to look at me as if to say Nope - see you later, and would curl up in the barn on a bale of hay until I returned.  I hope you have Molly for some time yet and I am sure she knows how much she is loved! Gosh - this ended up a long one!    Report

12/04/2008, 12:29 valB Joined on 21/11/2007 Posts 140 Re: ENGLISH COCKER SPANIELS Molly is the same, only happy if she is with us and she knows when we are going out and sits by the car. She will travel quite happily in the front with me and as she is so elderly she normally sleeps the whole journey there and back. The Labrador will miss her dreadfully when she does go as he tries to play with her and she just looks at him in disgust, he is only two years old. Yes, we hope the dreaded day does not come yet as I cannot imagine her not being around.                        Report

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