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01/10/2007, 18:48 rivendell Joined on 20/04/2005 Posts 3 Carte sejour My carte sejour runs out the end of October the Marie saysI  do not need it any more, does anyone no for sure, I would like to renew it if possible I have had it for five years and if nothing else it proves when I arrived in France, ( new healthcare rules) Brian    Report

01/10/2007, 19:06 Clair Joined on 23/08/2004 ------- Forum Moderator ------- Lot (46) Posts 7,793 Re: Carte sejour They have to give you a Titre/Carte de Séjour if you ask for one. You might have to go to the préfecture. Demande facultative de carte de séjour Inactifs  Les "inactifs" (retraités et autres personnes sans activités), qui ont établi leur résidence habituelle en France depuis moins de cinq ans, peuvent demander une carte de séjour "CE - non actif".  La durée de validité de la carte dépend de la pérennité des ressources présentées. Dans tous les cas, elle ne peut dépasser cinq ans.  Doivent être fournis les justificatifs suivants :  un titre d'identité ou un passeport en cours de validité,  une attestation d'assurance maladie-maternité offrrant un certain nombre de prestations,  les documents justifiant de ressources suffisantes pour le demandeur et, le cas échéant, pour les membres de sa famille.  Guichet, coût et récépissé  La demande doit être effectuée à la préfecture du lieu de résidence, voire à la sous-préfecture ou à la mairie ou au commissariat, suivant les départements.  Se renseigner en premier lieu auprès de la préfecture de son domicile.  La délivrance de la carte est gratuite.  Un récépissé est remis à toute personne qui demande la délivrance ou le renouvellement d'une carte. source: http://vosdroits.service-public.fr/particuliers/Etrangers en France Clair Real Virtual French Person    Report

01/10/2007, 19:14 cooperlola Joined on 05/05/2006 72 - Sarthe - home of les 24 heures du Mans Posts 6,438 Re: Carte sejour Forgive me Clair, but (you know far better than I) doesn't that say "for less than 5 years" (not our o/p)?  I'm sure I must have got the wrong end of the stick... Couldn't he get the permanent one now? Healthcare Issues Site    Report

01/10/2007, 20:03 Suandpete Joined on 23/08/2004 Posts 367 Re: Carte sejour     We went to our Mairie this morning (St Varent, 79 Deux-Sèvres) armed with print-outs in French of all the relevant laws.  We have been here since April 2002 and are almost 2 years away from an E121 so the fact that we need to prove we have beeen here for more than 5 years may be crucial.  We explained the CMU problem (they were totally unaware) and so they rang the Prefecture in Niort who said NO.   We were kind of expecting that but the Mairie have provided us witha certificate signed by the Maire with a Commune stamp stating the date that we came to live here so hopefully it will do the same job. Time will tell. Su (Deux-Sèvres)    Report

01/10/2007, 20:10 Clair Joined on 23/08/2004 ------- Forum Moderator ------- Lot (46) Posts 7,793 Re: Carte sejour  cooperlola wrote: Forgive me Clair, but (you know far better than I) doesn't that say "for less than 5 years" (not our o/p)?  I'm sure I must have got the wrong end of the stick... Couldn't he get the permanent one now? Sorry, my fault. The link and quote were provided to show that the carte/titre de séjour had to be issued by the French authorities on request. They were not meant to apply to any specific circumstances. Apologies if I have inadvertently misled anyone. EDIT: I have found the relevant section on the page I linked to in my previous post, just a little bit further down... Carte de séjour permanent  Les citoyens qui ont acquis un droit au séjour permanent en France peuvent demander la délivrance d'une carte de séjour "CE - séjour permanent - toutes activités professionnelles", valable vingt ans.  Cette carte, dont la possession n'est pas obligatoire, est renouvelable de plein droit. Clair Real Virtual French Person    Report

01/10/2007, 22:19 Suandpete Joined on 23/08/2004 Posts 367 Re: Carte sejour     That is exactly the paperwork which we took with us to the Mairie this morning - they rang the Prefecture in Niort (we listened to the phone call) and they said NO! Su (Deux-Sèvres)    Report

02/10/2007, 9:13 Clair Joined on 23/08/2004 ------- Forum Moderator ------- Lot (46) Posts 7,793 Re: Carte sejour Go to the préfecture. Séjour en France des citoyens européens non-actifs Formalités à l'installation en France Les citoyens de l'UE et assimilés, qui souhaitent s'installer en France, doivent être munis d'une carte d'identité ou d'un passeport en cours de validité.  Dans les trois mois suivant leur arrivée, ils doivent se faire enregistrer auprès du maire de leur commune de résidence, sous peine d'amende.  Une attestation d'enregistrement leur est immédiatement remise.  Les intéressés ne sont pas tenus de détenir un titre de séjour. Toutefois, s'ils en font la demande, il leur en est délivré un.  L'installation en France est subordonnée à l'absence de menace pour l'ordre public. vosdroits.service-public.fr/ Clair Real Virtual French Person    Report

02/10/2007, 9:51 cooperlola Joined on 05/05/2006 72 - Sarthe - home of les 24 heures du Mans Posts 6,438 Re: Carte sejour I agree with Clair.  If these are going to be a way into the CMU for those with 5 years' residence or more, then the prefectures are going to have to get their acts together.  Demand the correct paperwork - it might save you a lot of money in the future! Healthcare Issues Site    Report

02/10/2007, 10:47 Tourangelle Joined on 31/08/2004 37 Posts 939 Re: Carte sejour But where do you go if they say no?  I mean who is the next authority up, as it were?  I think I am going to have this problem soon when I go to renew mine, because I've moved to a different departement. I'm perfectly prepared to argue it out with them and the town I live in has a prefecture in it, but where do you go if they say no? CMU is totally not an issue for me, not only do I work, but I'm a civil servant, and I think it is particularly useful to have French papers.    Report

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