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20/07/2007, 11:13 JJ Joined on 01/01/2005 Charente Maritime Posts 257 JUST CHLOR Chlorinators How long should they last? Greetings to you all, I have a JUST-CHLOR 100 standard salt water chlorinator.It was installed in the summer of 2004, so now in its fourth year. Ever since I have owned it it has been temperamental, I clean the electrode regularly with acid, but cannot get it to produce enough free chlorine, so am having to supplement with galletes or eau de javel. I have heard that the electrodes have a short life span. Has anyone out there got one of these machines, and if so have you had any similar problems. Many thanks. JJ www.gites.gb.com    Report

20/07/2007, 13:07 Goo_Rat Joined on 23/08/2004 16, Charente / Dordogne border Posts 47 Re: JUST CHLOR Chlorinators How long should they last? Hi I have been using a salt water for about the same time and find it fine, but my unit is undersized for the pool, and in hot weather have to either have it running longer or add extra chlorine (usually chocs as it also adds extra stabiliser if needed) How big is your pool?your unit is designed for 60,000ltrs Have you tested your salt level? I use the aquacheck dip strips. Your unit should have a min of 6,000 ppm. Can you get the output to an indicated 90% to 100%? Electrodes can last up to 8 years, depending on the quality of the plating of the electrode. Cleaning them in too concentrated a solution of acid can kill them very quickly (1 to 10 dilution is about right). Running the unit without enough salt also kills them quite quickly. ONLY CLEAN YOUR ELECTRODE IF IT LOOKS CRUSTED UP. Electrodes are very expensive in France, but can be sourced and shipped from Australia (where salt pools are very commonplace and may manufactures are based). Prices are about half what you pay in France including shipping. Hope that helps    Report

20/07/2007, 15:25 JJ Joined on 01/01/2005 Charente Maritime Posts 257 Re: JUST CHLOR Chlorinators How long should they last? David, Thanks for all that info, very helpful. My pool is 85m3 which is 85000 litres?? I test my salt level every day when I do all my other checks, I have a digital tester, very good, which show the salt level is at about 5800ppm. So I perhaps need a bit more salt? It has 4 settings, on max I get between 75% and 100% production, but it normally gives out a reading of 75%, so it does seem to be struggling. I may have already damaged the electrode as I have been cleaning in in undiluted Hydrchloric Acid. I may look at Austalia for a new electrode if I need one. Many thanks. JJ www.gites.gb.com    Report

21/07/2007, 12:22 Goo_Rat Joined on 23/08/2004 16, Charente / Dordogne border Posts 47 Re: JUST CHLOR Chlorinators How long should they last? Hi JJ Your unit is about 30% under capacity, so it will struggle in the hot months. Instead of changing the electrode you could replace the unit with one of the right size for about 500 euros shipped.      Report

21/07/2007, 17:27 JJ Joined on 01/01/2005 Charente Maritime Posts 257 Re: JUST CHLOR Chlorinators How long should they last? David, Once again, thanks for the advice re capacity. I am also aware that my pump and filter are undersized, which does not help. I might buy a new salt unit, or might throw the towel in and go for an automatic liquid chlorine system!!!! Cheers. Jim.   JJ www.gites.gb.com    Report

05/05/2008, 14:32 myles Joined on 05/05/2008 Posts 1 Re: JUST CHLOR Chlorinators How long should they last? hello. Just read your email on justchlor electrodes. Have had mine for 3 years but I think I have burnt mine out by descaling with a much too acidic solution. I can't seem to find an aussie manufacturer or reseller. Any suggestions? Does it go by a different name?Any help would be greatly appreciated. Could you answer me directly to my email. Thanks Myles Jessel Contact details removed by the moderators. Please do not post your personal details on the message boards.    Report

05/05/2008, 20:19 The P's Joined on 29/12/2007 Languedoc Posts 67 Re: JUST CHLOR Chlorinators How long should they last? Different branded manufacturers will all have their own suggestions for salt ppm.   Look at you manuals and for advice on the control box.   John Plowright mandmhottubs    Report

30/05/2008, 11:58 Taylops Joined on 30/05/2008 Sud-Quest Posts 3 Re: JUST CHLOR Chlorinators How long should they last? This reply may be a bit late (found your post while looking for Justchlor information for a pals pool) but here are my thoughtsfrom my experience maintaining multiple pools in France.   Firstly, most pool related products in France are an absolute rip-off. Generally items are 25% more expensive than the equivalent in UK even though items in the UK are much more expensive than the USA and Australia. I have purchased many items from these two countries and in some cases have saved 50% even after paying duty, VAT and shipping!   As far as salt chlorinators are concerned, my advise would be to go for the best possible unit, which in my experience is the Zodiac Clearwater LM series. While more expensive than many other models they are VERY reliable, give top-quality performance and cells last considerably longer than most others makes. They are also very easy to fit and set up.   For ease of use, go for the self-cleaning model sized to suit the pool (add minimum 20% to the calculated size of the pool to ensure the cell is not running flat-out).   One advantage of the Clearwater unit (compared to the Justchlor) is that it operates on 4000ppm salt content as opposed to 6000ppm which apart from saving on salt requirements also lowers potential corrosion and “salt taste” in the pool.   The LM3-40 (the largest model) will suffice for pools up to 160,000 litres and can be purchased in the USA for around $880. Shipping (USPS) is around $110 and expect to pay between 60 to 100 Euros in duty/VAT. This compares very favourably with the 1500 to 2000 Euros the same unit sells for in France. Obviously smaller models (I use the LM3-24 - good for pools to 70,000 litres) are cheaper to purchase.   The ONLY difference between the USA model and the model sold in France is the lack of a built-in timer (which is redundant if you have a pump timer on the pool).   Hope this helps!    Report

30/05/2008, 14:07 The P's Joined on 29/12/2007 Languedoc Posts 67 Re: JUST CHLOR Chlorinators How long should they last? I appreciate this is getting off subject slightly but it cannot go unchallanged about the rip off comment as it does not present a balanced view.   There are some things in France that are cheaper and there is a lot of stuff than can be more expensive.   That's life. What is missing from the above is a lack of appreciation of the fact that a lot of pool supplies are brought in by retailers who have to do the following: - Pay the import duties & other taxes Pay for shipping Buy in bulk which is a risk by reducing cash flow (look at the stock in your local pool shop) Hold that money in stock instead of a bank account Pay for insurances & public liabilities Put money aside for warranty work (difficult to get with a US/UK/Australian product - they may offer it but try and get them to honour it when you are in France) Pay for training to meet regulations Pay for marketing Comply with the law on the shipment, storage and handling of chemicals - becoming more expensive Ensure all staff are sufficiently trained to respond FREE to clients Earn enough to pay their own taxes and cotisations. Add TVA at a higher rate than the UK VAT which maks a difference on large cost items. Pay for premises which when you are a business, is expensive because of French law on business premises.   I guess I could go on but I really don't want to be seen as aggresive in this, I just want to tell it how it is.   When you take into account all of the above, there really are not huge margins to be had.   I would really love to work under the rules in the US and Australia.   For a start I would employ more people even though it would cost to train them.   And they would still be protected by my moral duty to them so there would be no hiring and firing in a typically US way where they are governed by 'at will' contracts,  unless they really, really deserved it having done all you can to help them. You also need to make sure especially on chemicals that you are comparing like for like.   There are many  brands of chlorine on the market and they are not all the same for a whole host of reasons, for example, with some galets you are getting fillers which don't need to be there.   John Plowright mandmhottubs    Report

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