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03/07/2009, 21:20 Frenchie Joined on 31/05/2007 Granzay, 2 Sèvres,79 Posts 7,802 Re: Sirloin Steak I agree with Chessfou when he writes "  In France I am convinced that (at least outside the big cities) an absolute minimum of 50% (probably more like 90%) have a good idea of what good food is like (even if they can't always afford to put it on their table). " It is not being patriotc, t is really what I 'm sure of. As for chocolate with meat, yes, I am franchouillarde, stubborn, I 'm wearing blinkers, I'm dumb, etc;;  but it is a BIG NO - NO from me. Leave me the confit and I'll leave you the leg of lamb au chocolat...     Life has a habit of biting you on the bum in ways that you least expect    Report

03/07/2009, 21:22 buelligan Joined on 01/02/2009 Posts 425 Re: Sirloin Steak Would it be provocative of me to assert that most of the best home cooked food I have eaten in France was cooked by a Dutch person?  Oddly enough, I was invited to eat there last night and we were all discussing the idea that French food is superior to that of other nations.  The people around the table came from a good selection of european countries (including France of course).  All of us could remember truly delicious meals cooked in France, but all of us agreed that, in general, French food is not superior to that of other countries.  Actually, I think I find the idea that any country's food, design, music, art etc is somehow "better" than that of another slightly offensive....hope I didn't offend anyone there.... Fear grows in darkness; if you think there's a bogeyman around, turn on the light    Report

03/07/2009, 21:39 Frenchie Joined on 31/05/2007 Granzay, 2 Sèvres,79 Posts 7,802 Re: Sirloin Steak One of the best meals I ve ever had, ( apart from my gran and mum's tables ..) ; was in the Marais Poitevin. A small restaurant owned by a couple of young people , the man is the chef. His cuisine is absolutely superb  , based on tradition, but  a tad creative. ( just a bit, the way I like..) We took Norwegian friends there, they said it was awesome. I ve had excellent meals in the UK, as I said before, in Italy, In Tunsia, etc.. I never said one could only eat well in France !! What I think is untrue is that  French food is bland and predictable, tasteless. Even  simple food made with good ingredients and a " tour de main" can be awesome.   Life has a habit of biting you on the bum in ways that you least expect    Report

04/07/2009, 9:48 Chancer Joined on 16/07/2006 Picardie, Sussex Posts 4,081 Re: Sirloin Steak A good point made regarding the mediatisation of food, chefs etc, this was never necessary in France to whet the appetites of the populace, good food has always been of the highest importance as witnessed by the respect given to the title chef. I dont buy into the French/English/nimporte quoi food is better than any other, why cant we celebrate all the good food that god has provided us with? Those that wish to champion modern day British food are doing just that when they cite the diverse influences, I would have more respect for them if they had a real appreciation of and a wish to protect and promote genuine British food. Those French eateries that never change their menus or always offer the same choice of safe traditional dishes may not actually be run by chefs, we have one near us, very cheap and very popular with routiers and tourists, there is a choice of dishes but they are always the same dishes day after day, always tasty but somehow too consistent like Macdonalds, I prefer to eat where there is not a carte but the constantly changing menu du jour. A chocolate and meat combination for you to try Frenchie Make a  hot (and I dont mean french hot!) chilli con carne ideally with equal measures of steak haché and real steak, and near the end of cooking add the best dark chocolate that you can afford. It tempers the spiciness in the same way that yoghurt does but really enhances the taste and texture.      Report

04/07/2009, 10:03 Frenchie Joined on 31/05/2007 Granzay, 2 Sèvres,79 Posts 7,802 Re: Sirloin Steak  J.R gone native wrote: A good point made regarding the mediatisation of food, chefs etc, this was never necessary in France to whet the appetites of the populace, good food has always been of the highest importance as witnessed by the respect given to the title chef.  Those that wish to champion modern day British food are doing just that when they cite the diverse influences, I would have more respect for them if they had a real appreciation of and a wish to protect and promote genuine British food. I AGREE  chocolate and meat combination for you to try Frenchie Make a  hot (and I dont mean french hot!) chilli con carne ideally with equal measures of steak haché and real steak, and near the end of cooking add the best dark chocolate that you can afford. It tempers the spiciness in the same way that yoghurt does but really enhances the taste and texture. Ok, soyons fous !!!! (as we say in French )     Life has a habit of biting you on the bum in ways that you least expect    Report

04/07/2009, 11:29 Scooby Joined on 25/09/2007 Peak District & Périgord Noir Posts 1,144 Re: Sirloin Steak  J.Rs gone native wrote: Those that wish to champion modern day British food are doing just that when they cite the diverse influences, I would have more respect for them if they had a real appreciation of and a wish to protect and promote genuine British food. It's a little presumptious of you to presume that just because someone enjoys the new diversity of dishes in the UK that they don't also appreciate good 'old fashioned' British food.    Report

04/07/2009, 14:02 Chancer Joined on 16/07/2006 Picardie, Sussex Posts 4,081 Re: Sirloin Steak Perhaps Scooby but I have yet to hear the chicken tikka or sweet chilli sauce brigade blowing the trumpet for real British food.      Report

04/07/2009, 15:21 sunny Joined on 06/11/2007 Posts 90 Re: Sirloin Steak I am neither British nor French, but must admit that I do prefer eating out in UK than France.  Loads of mediocre food in both places, but I think there is more of a focus on where the food comes from and innovative cooking in UK.  I absolutely love light,  fusion-style cooking, and am more likely to find that it in the UK. And not sure what is wrong with spicy food - some great Indian, Sri Landan, Thai curries are burning hot.  These don't dull the taste buds, but rather heighten the senses.  i am not against cream and cheese in foods, but these are more likely to dull and coat the taste buds, no...?    Report

04/07/2009, 16:31 Sprogster Joined on 23/08/2004 Var & C.I. Posts 585 Re: Sirloin Steak McDonald's biggest and fastest growing market in the world after Amwrica, is France! I find it depressing that the traditional family run French restaurant is in fast decline, being replaced by hamburger and pizza restaurants. Not surprisingly France now has the fastest growing obesity problem in Europe.    Report

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