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Making the Move From Outside the EU
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 10/03/2008, 18:27
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CJR
Joined on 09/03/2008
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Re: Moving to France from South Africa
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We had quite a few black clients I worked for Deloitte Touche one of the largest accounting and consulting firms in the world. Also when I was in industry where we employed over 1500 people largely black, they all had bank or savings accounts.
It is common sense that banks have neverever been selective in financial matters in South Africa nor has large private business. In fact, Anglo American, Barlows to name a few, had very progressive and generous employment policies, especially for the blacks.
The UK banking sector even now does not offer next day clearance of cheques. South Africa with all its problems has since the mid 1970's offered next day clearance of cheques and still does today.
You are making excuses, like our current government in the UK, for incompetence and mismangement, & in the case of SA this level of incompetance & criminality never existed before, nor would the previous SA gov't have accepted it.
Quillan- B&B must be quiet at present, but I have better things to do- so totsiens!
CJR
ps I am not married to a 2-3 generation SAfrican, rather I trace my ancestry on both sides to the late 18th century.
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12/03/2008, 18:33
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Jura
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Re: Moving to France from South Africa
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Quillan, Mugabe is in power, yes, but not due to a democratic process. He has a militia behind him and a murderous one at that. 'People power' has nothing to do with his position of office. If it did I am sure he would be six feet under by now...trouble is his 'people' are starving, diseased and terrified. He works to that old standard...eliminate all opposition.
As to who gains financially in that State...as a dying aids-stricken woman once told a journalist inquiring as to how much Bob Geldof's 'Aid' had helped the African people - " We are still hungry and dying but the local militia all are carrying new guns ".
It is obvious where the money goes and it does NOT go to the people. They do not need cash. They need an infra-structure supplying the most basic of services that we all take for granted and they just do not have it.
And you are correct that the US and British Govts did nothing to halt the murder of jewish, gypsy and other peoples in the death camps in WW2. Even though aerial photographs taken by British pilots on reconnaissance missions over Poland in 1942 showed plainly the gas chambers and prisoners of Auschwitz, and more, and were presented to both Govts, as well as Geneva and the Vatican...they all chose to do nothing.
It seems nothing has changed today. It seems that to some world powers that there are people on this earth who are dispensible and who do not matter.
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12/03/2008, 19:18
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Quillan
 
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Re: Moving to France from South Africa
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Spot on Jura.
I guess Mugabe keeps his troops in line by giving them food. There must become a time when the people do turn on him. Of course many will die in the process, it will probably be a massacre/bloodbath. Out of that however a lesson one hopes will be learnt and the same situation will not happen again. We we live in hope.
The problem I have these days is that more and more I see people putting the blame on others and not taking responsibility for what is either happening now or in the past. The only way forward in my mind is to accept your (as a general term, not personal) responsibility and then say 'right now what can we do to put it right'.
I think you are right that there are things that still happen that show we have learnt nothing from the past.
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30/04/2008, 23:41
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Quillan
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Re: Moving to France from South Africa
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And which Africans would they be, indigenous or white and what countries are they going to in their thousands?
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01/05/2008, 10:07
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ernie
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Botswana - good government ?????
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Well, I would not consider Botswana to be a model country because its president is clearly a racist -“President Festus Mogae once described them (Bushmen or the San people) as 'Stone Age creatures' for whom there was no place in the modern world”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2195640.stm
ernie
(Not ernieY, BTW) who is a much nicer chap !!!
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01/05/2008, 11:11
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postie
Joined on 03/08/2005
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Re: Botswana - good government ?????
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"MODEL COUNTRY in Africa" is there such a thing? In the big scheme of things, yes, Botswana is a model country! At the very least, the wealth generated by diamonds is more evenly distributed amonst the population. Every country has it's crosses to bear - Botswana being no exception! We lived there for 23 years so feel I'm qualified to comment.
The most wasted of all days is one without laughter.
-- ee cummings
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