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 23/05/2007, 20:35
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Bugbear
 
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Just found THIS on the web. I have no idea if the advice given is correct but its very easy to understand.
"Life is Short - Forgive Quickly - Love Truly - Laugh Uncontrollably"
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23/05/2007, 21:40
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Gluestick
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Re: New project Guitar
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Umm...yes I have seen that before.
One of the problems here is that of compromise; as always!
No amount of adjustment of truss rod and bridge will compensate for a duff neck.
Again, as I said before, different players want different styles and therefore different gauge strings which will exert different strain on the neck when tuned to correct pitch.
Also, if you stop and think about it, the different thickness strings will all need different heights to avoid fret buzz. Thus the string lie from top G to bottom G will be quite different.
At first consideration, people imagine that the strings sit at an angle from the fingerboard, sloping up from the nut at the head to the bridge. They don't. Or rather should not. They should lie almost parallel and this is the trick.
As the guy on the Tripod site says, some frets are slightly twisted. Very hard to bang in the frets, which are only brass alloy of various types, without creating some level of distortion.
This is why they are filed to fit. And of course, players like Knofler, who bend the strings sideways all the time, wear the frets out quite quickly, and the whole process needs renewing.
Setting up a guitar properly, to me, is like setting up the tappets on a Jag straight six, or a Lotus Cortina. You keep miking up the shims, fitting the cams and taking it apart and refitting different shims...........
A lot of patience and time but well worth the effort in the end.
Edit: This looks useful!
http://www.amazon.com/Guitar-Player-Repair-Guide-Electrics/dp/customer-reviews/0879302917
Further Edit: here is a very useful site, with a long thorough section on setup etc.
The site also has a forum with much useful information.
http://www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setup/index.htm
"Yes, but that apart, Mrs Lincoln, did you enjoy the play?"
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24/05/2007, 10:20
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Gluestick
Joined on 22/03/2006
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Re: New project Guitar
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Well, in the 'shop, we always used to joke about advertising for a midget Japanese mech who was also a contortionist! particularly when doing engine work on MKII Jags and Cooper s!
Jag heads were a pig to set up, though, as you selected the "Correct" shims (Acid etched in - and + to denote half thous) reassembled and the clearance changed! Easier than Aston straight 6s, though: with these you had to grind the end of the valve stem down! Take off too much....................
Great idea as a project: have a look at the URLs I posted. You can buy blanks which are very reasonable and require full finishing.
The hardest thing is fitting the frets: using the template they will provide, it is only a matter of patience and time.
"Yes, but that apart, Mrs Lincoln, did you enjoy the play?"
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24/05/2007, 10:30
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f1steveuk
Joined on 29/03/2007
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I think bakerlite may be over egging the pudding for a replica! Worth it if it was a real Fender, but sdaly it's not! (I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy!)
"Some scoundrel has taken the cork for my lunch"
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24/05/2007, 12:36
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Gluestick
Joined on 22/03/2006
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Re: New project Guitar
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Bakelite (I spelt it incorrectly too!![Blush [:$]](/cs/images/emotions/blush.gif) ), is or was a Thermo Setting Plastic.
It was thus used for moulding; classically, e.g. Radio Cases.
Scratchplates for guitars are invariably made from a sheet of plastic and profiled.
Having done a few, it's a pig! Mainly because when cutting out the profile, fretsaw, jigsaw whatever,it is impossible to avoid edge heating the plastic as friction heats the blade up and you get a sort of fuzzy finish!
And this requires very careful and laborious rubbing down to clean it up.
BTW, WMD Music http://www.wdmusic.co.uk/shop/products.php?category=351&page=7
do indeed list a bakelite sheet for a make your own scratchplate: but it's more than twice the price of the others!
"Yes, but that apart, Mrs Lincoln, did you enjoy the play?"
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24/05/2007, 14:17
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f1steveuk
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I am tempted to do this as a full Fender "Spanish Electric" rep, the forerunner of the Esquire (complete with Bakelite pick guard), but I have also toyed with the idea, of doing a modern take on the single pick up Esquire, hence my visit to weldom to look at various sheets of polished metal, I will make up my mind soon!!
Having worked in F1 and the world rally championship, and a short burst in the music industry, I'd go with the musicians every time!!
Sir Stirling is a truely nice bloke, gave me hours of help on my last book, and didn't want a thing in return, and still very very quick in a car!
"Some scoundrel has taken the cork for my lunch"
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24/05/2007, 17:21
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f1steveuk
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I once had a blast in a Modus F3 another Marquart car, ex Tony Brise, and recently found out that Peter Warr (ex Lotus) lives 40 mins away!!!
F2, beat me by one, half a season of F3! (class B as well)
"Some scoundrel has taken the cork for my lunch"
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