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 03/06/2008, 17:32
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darnsarf
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Re: Racetrack plan shatters quiet life in France...
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"The Demonstration track/museum/hotel/workshops/horse riding centre/health spa/ education centre that is being proposed by David and Sandra Brooker-Carey, is to make use of otherwise useless land..."
I think you may have put your finger on why some people may be opposed to such a development. Surely 40 Hectares of woodland is not useless?
I'm also surprised that 40,000 people would visit and generate enough income to make the plan viable. If each spends 50 euro then a turnover of 2M would be earned. Assuming 35 full-time staff would cost about 1M, after lekkie for all those loudspeakers and investment in the track, museum and other associated buildings, I suspect it would indeed be useless land soon. Also, 40,000 people is only just over 100 people per day. Are there going to be 35 people looking after them? - a service ratio that would make the Ritz hotel blush. I doubt it and suspect that the plan is based on full-time equivilents which actually means quite a lot more people 'employed' but most only actually earning for a few days a month when meetings/practice/training days are held. So not really improving the lot of the unemployed. But I've not read the plan and the business model and won't be objecting because I don't live nearby. But f1steveuk's exaggerations and vitriol for those opposing the plan is doing his mission no favours I suspect. A jet-powered dragster not being heard 5 streets away? Come off it...
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03/06/2008, 19:02
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f1steveuk
 
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No vitriol, no exaggerations, just fed up with "it's a race track" when it has quite clearly been said, it isn't one. People will only see what they want to see!
I was at Bexhill when Vampire ran, and when in front of the car it wasn't that loud, although I have no idea what it was like behind!
As I have said, I understand that some people are against, my only problem is when someone says they are against, and then state inaccuracies, such as "it's a race track", and if the majority against are British (and I know the local mayor is fully for the idea), why should we, as people living in someone sle's country deprive locals the chance of work?
"Some scoundrel has taken the cork for my lunch"
W.C Fields
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03/06/2008, 20:31
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Dick Smith
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Re: Racetrack plan shatters quiet life in France...
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 f1steveuk wrote: | No vitriol, no exaggerations, just fed up with "it's a race track" when it has quite clearly been said, it isn't one.
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Well, on one forum it's been hyped up to a Formula 1 circuit:
"Some people ( British) are trying to get the approval for a Formula 1 Circuit in Perigord - Domaine de Bagatelle -"
I wonder if Bernie knows?
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Dick Smith
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03/06/2008, 20:48
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Dick Smith
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Looking for a pasture to park Max in?
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Dick Smith
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04/06/2008, 8:28
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Lilly
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For what its worth, I remember when a large salmon farming company wanted to put cages in a nearby sea loch, us divers who new the terrain new it was very rich in wild life and a stunning under sea world, we also realied economicaly on the products that we harvested from this area and the fishing boats that fished these waters also. There was a huge objection from the "incomers" and any locals were suduced by the offers of increased empoyment and other benefits to the area, at the same time oil researcers were entertained in the area and again many promises of employment. 2 years after The salmon farm was fed daily by a bloke from the mainland who lived in a caravan (1 job) the destruction to the sea life was unimaginable ( thick grey stinking sludge underneath the cages that no wild life could be sustained the chemical impact was catastrophic to the mollusc population due to the hormone in the feed) it also lost the wild life that was essential to us to make our living ( scallops) the fishing boats didn't bother any more as the fish and prawns etc move out due to the pollution. Net result (no pun intended!) there were more jobs lost than created. The point being is that offers of employment are not the only consideration and usually are only a bait to get locals on side only to be let down at a later date.
I can also remeber a property tycoon who bought a nearby inn who's desire was to change the inn into a hotel and develop it into a marina for the yachting community with special shower facilities and increased employment for the area
After p***8=g off the local regulars as they wer'nt the desired type who then no longer patrinated the Inn, the staff he paid as and when he felt like it and due to travel costs to a remote area on the minimum wage could not afford to work there, the whole idea crumbled.
Unless this couple are in it to provide employment on a charitable basis I think this business model is too big for the region it is to be set in and I question that the amount of resources required to keep this running for the few years that it will take to get it off the ground ( if it does) on the scale it is proposing could well be unimaginable figures as I say it may be that this couple just what to put back into the region employment and pay on an on going basis as a purely charitable gesture, which I take my hat off to them as there can't be that many folk who are either able or charitable enough to do that.
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04/06/2008, 15:52
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f1steveuk
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| Dick Smith wrote: | | f1steveuk wrote: | No vitriol, no exaggerations, just fed up with "it's a race track" when it has quite clearly been said, it isn't one.
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Well, on one forum it's been hyped up to a Formula 1 circuit:
"Some people ( British) are trying to get the approval for a Formula 1 Circuit in Perigord - Domaine de Bagatelle -"
I wonder if Bernie knows?
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Having worked for "The small one", I bet someone in his office will pick up on that!!! But that does illustrate my point, one inaccuracy, and in black and white, and it suddendly becomes the truth!
I don't think Bernie will be too bothered though, he already owns Paul Ricard.....................
"Some scoundrel has taken the cork for my lunch"
W.C Fields
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04/06/2008, 16:20
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cooperlola
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Anyway, who cares if it's F1 or just a track for test days? - they're cars so they must be evil, Steve. To say nothing of the weirdos who watch them going round in circles.![Devil [6]](/cs/emoticons/emotion-14.gif)
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04/06/2008, 16:34
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lostinfrance
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| Clair wrote: | |
I have heard to-day that it has been turned down,is there members from that Dept e.g. 24 that comfirm it or not.
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