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   03/10/2005, 18:29
Opel Fruit is not online. Last active: 14/06/2006 21:00:41 Opel Fruit



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I need more info on your intentions, and what you currently have and wish to keep or not keep. If you already have a serviceable oil fired system with radiators, why do you want to change.... or do you wish to add to the system? If you want to restrict radiators during non-occupancy, CdH owners install TRVs in all rooms and set them back to the Frost setting. This retains an airing effect, but doesn't waste energy.

What size Ballon do you have, assuming it is seperate? How many rooms do you need to provide for, and will they have baths? What about your own needs?

Spell out what you intend/need/desire. I will try to provide a guide.



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   07/11/2005, 16:56
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Still need ideas?



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   08/11/2005, 11:34
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Thanks again Opel fruit for your invaluable information. Thanks to your help, our self built CH system is working away and keeping the temperature levels ok room by room. I have one slight problem which niggles a bit and which has happend three days running. The system runs fine all day (We don't have the system on timer just TRVs and one room with a room stat and no TRV). Each morning, the system has cut out during the night. A quick push of the burner reset button and it fires up and works away all day.
Any ideas at all? Failing which, I'll just see if it sorts itself out over the next week or two or resign myself to going out to the boiler room each morning to reset (or train one of the dogs to do it).
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   08/11/2005, 12:10
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The only reason the burner locks out is because the flame has died. This can be for a few reasons, the most common being too much air (the flame literally blows out) or restricted fuel delivery from the tank.

As far as too much air is concerned, and assuming you have the C09 burner, you need to set the secondary air supply as per the Deville manual. This is fairly non-critical, but does need to be set in the region shown for the output you require. (You have which size and pattern gicleur?)

Then you set the primary air using the Allen key supplied with the burner. It is normal to set the oil pressure FIRST, using a screwdriver on the pressure regulator. You then assess the flame - open the sliding door on the observation hole and check that the flame is a series of definite licks and are orange with no white or blue in them. If you have these, reduce the air using the Allen key until the flame pattern and colour are correct.

If you have a problem with fuel delivery, observe the oil filter. The oil level should fill the glass completely at rest, and once the burner is running, the oil level should not drop by any more than about half way down the glass. There should be NO bubbles at all.

See what you find.... 

 



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   09/11/2005, 8:49
Leschenauds is not online. Last active: 14/11/2005 08:36:18 Leschenauds

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Hi Opel fruit,

We have the same boiler/burner as you, bought from Leroy Merlin. The system has now been up and running successfully for the past week or so and everyting heats up as it should and no leaks however, we can run the system all day without problems, boiler cutting in and out as necessary but running overnight results in the boiler tripping out. Easily remedied by going into the boilerhouse in the morning and pushing the red button on the burner after which it fires up and runs fine all day.
Wondered if you had experienced this problem and knew waht was might be causing it. If not, it is a problem I could live with.
Brian Owen
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   09/11/2005, 9:57
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See answer above!


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   17/11/2005, 16:18
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I am a bit concerned about the 1% expansion of plastic pipe when carrying hot water.  We have some very long central heating pipe runs which will be through the floor screed.  Suggestions please on how this can be done. What happens with the expansion of underfloor heating pipes?


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   17/11/2005, 16:52
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Long straight runs must be avoided - for the reasons and illustration given. It is far worse with 22mm PEX/PER - the 15mm and 10mm pipe is less prone. There are various means of controlling the length growth, usually be allowing bends and/or adding expansion loops. Or use copper.

Underfloor pipe is small bore and run at only 38 degrees or so. So the problem is largely insignificant. As long as the guidance provided by the suppliers is adhered to, there should be no problems.



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   25/11/2005, 18:42
David M is not online. Last active: 14/11/2005 11:56:45 David M

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Thanks for all this... it's a real time saver... and really appreciated.

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