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   18/05/2008, 14:51
Ron Avery is not online. Last active: 07/07/2008 19:11:14 Ron Avery

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Re: Exchange rate for Tax purposes
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Bob Dee was quoting from something or somebody called "infotax-southwest@dgfip.finances.gouv.fr".  I don't know who these people are, but they clearly haven't read the law, or even the pink tax forms.  There is no such thing as the "correct rate".

That is the SW France tax office Allan, there used to a lady there who would answer tax questions in English, which is useful for the first years if your French is not good, but she has retired and another man has taken over, but I'm not sure his English is that brilliant

In regards to your example Allan, I was making the same point re a significant income, say an annual interest payment to France received in December when the rate was 1.33€ being taxed at the "official rate" of 1.363€.


Why not just post a sensible answer, people will appreciate it more


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   18/05/2008, 17:44
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 ErnieY wrote:
It wasn't meant as an accusation...
Not taken that way.
...just an observation that for many the amounts in question perhaps did not warrant the degree of angst...
Undoubtedly true.
...pop a cork
Done.
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   19/05/2008, 18:28
jetlag is not online. Last active: 09/05/2008 18:30:21 jetlag

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There's no telling who is giving correct info ref the exchange rate for tax purposes. 

 If anyone knows the correct rate for the Saintes area, it will be much appreciated

many thanks

Jetlag


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   19/05/2008, 20:34
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and Pas de Calais (St Pol sur Ternoise area in particular).....!

Suey

ps a friend of ours told me yesterday that they worked on 1.18....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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   20/05/2008, 9:17
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As Sunday Driver has said above in several different ways - there is no official yearly rate.  The legal rate to use is the rate which was applicable at the time you were paid the money.

The critical thing is to be able to prove that the rate you used is at least as close as you were able to get to the one the law specifies.  Thus, yes, you will probably get away with a rate supplied by your local tax office for the year, but I would suggest that you get this in writing (or at least as an e-mail) direct from your own tax office and keep it with your documents in case of a tax audit in the future. Because I'm sure that "the rate I read about on an expat forum" would not be a good enough explanation if the auditors come to call.

And personally, if I had been lucky enough to have received a large sum of money at one time (such as an investment payout, inheritance etc) I would take the trouble to find out the rate on the day that was paid, rather than using an average rate for the year.  Then you cannot be wrong in the eyes of the law.


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   20/05/2008, 9:38
Benjamin is not online. Last active: 04/05/2008 17:48:37 Benjamin

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 cooperlola wrote:


And personally, if I had been lucky enough to have received a large sum of money at one time (such as an investment payout, inheritance etc) I would take the trouble to find out the rate on the day that was paid, rather than using an average rate for the year.  Then you cannot be wrong in the eyes of the law.




The proviso here has to be that you use one method or the other, you can't be seen deciding to use the end of year unofficial "official" rate for most of your transactions and then use a one off rate for a particular transaction.

I said, rather tongue in cheek, in an earlier posting on this thread, that it will be interesting to see how many people who are advocating using 1€36 to cover all of their 2007 transactions will want to be using the average rate obtained for 2008 when they see that it is to their benefit to do so.

We converted our UK income at 1€45 for 2007 because that was the average rate we received  throughout 2007.




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   27/05/2008, 17:13
ErnieY is not online. Last active: 08/07/2008 06:08:50 ErnieY



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Been into Cahors today with my forms; asked what the exchange rate should be and was told the 'official' rate was 1.3425 Confused [8-)]

 

 


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   27/05/2008, 17:15
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Yesterday was told that there definitely is an official end of year rate fixed by Paris.
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   27/05/2008, 17:26
allanb is not online. Last active: 12/02/2008 21:54:40 allanb

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Instead of saying that there is no official rate, perhaps I should have said that there's an infinite number of official rates.  Maybe we could have a contest to find the lowest one, and then we can all move there.



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   27/05/2008, 17:32
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 ErnieY wrote:

Been into Cahors today with my forms; asked what the exchange rate should be and was told the 'official' rate was 1.3425 Confused [8-)]

I emailed my local tax office in Vannes, which is quite a large office and definitely used to dealing with foreigners albeit in French, and was told that there is no official rate - as per SD's posts - but that I could, for convenience, use an average rate of 1.4264. This was arrived at by adding together the end of year rate of 1.3636 at 31 December 2007 and the start of year rate of 1.4892 as at 1 January 2007 and dividing by two. I was advised also to quote the email, the reference number and the name of the Inspector of Taxes who relayed this info to me on the Declaration of Taxes I shall make.

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