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09/05/2008, 21:56 Dick Smith Joined on 23/08/2004 Surrey and Manche (Pays Mortainais) Posts 8,824 Re: English as she is spoke ?  ErnieY wrote: Apologies then but of course we are all different and have our own pet likes and dislikes. How about fingernails down the blackboard or I used to be magic at the fingernails on the blackboard. Known and feared for it. Then they gave me an electronic Smart board. Great stuff, but makes no nasty noises at all... Regards Dick Smith Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground    Report

09/05/2008, 21:57 Dick Smith Joined on 23/08/2004 Surrey and Manche (Pays Mortainais) Posts 8,824 Re: English as she is spoke ?  sweet 17 wrote: You'll get into trouble for that remark which could be construed as being racist.  I thought it was rich, thick and clotted.  At least that's more PC, non? I forgot the rich. More PC to point out that in our better regiments there is a marked lack of ethnic diversity in the ranks of the officers... Regards Dick Smith Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground    Report

09/05/2008, 22:05 LyndaandRichard Joined on 01/05/2005 Posts 925 Re: English as she is spoke ?  tegwini wrote:  I am reminded of the BBC's  'The Apprentice'  when the apprentices spent hours trying to work out where to put the apostrophe and phoned all over London, and to seriously senior people. Sad, one wonders how they were supposed to the 'cream of the crop'  ! tegwini They're not supposed to be the cream of the crop. They are only salesmen. You don't need a high iq to sell things, just the gift of the gab. Sir Alan Sugar probably has a lower iq than you would imagine. Back on topic, the mistakes that annoy me the most are the use of 'there', 'they're' and 'their'. Also I see 'were' being written as 'where'. On a forum, these things are forgiveable. In the national press when you frequently see these errors, it is quite disturbing as these are supposed to be the 'cream of the literary crop', and really there is even less reason to get these things wrong due to things called spell checkers and grammer checkers on computers! Your Property in France    Report

09/05/2008, 22:08 Dick Smith Joined on 23/08/2004 Surrey and Manche (Pays Mortainais) Posts 8,824 Re: English as she is spoke ? I just heard a reporter on the BBC referring to the cyclone in Burma causing 'indiscriminating' damage. A new one for me. Or it may have been Sky. Regards Dick Smith Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground    Report

09/05/2008, 22:25 KathyF Joined on 17/02/2007 Mid-Wales & Southern Manche (50) Posts 128 Re: English as she is spoke ?  LyndaandRichard wrote: Back on topic, the mistakes that annoy me the most are the use of 'there', 'they're' and 'their'. Also I see 'were' being written as 'where'. On a forum, these things are forgiveable. In the national press when you frequently see these errors, it is quite disturbing as these are supposed to be the 'cream of the literary crop', and really there is even less reason to get these things wrong due to things called spell checkers and grammer checkers on computers! The problem with spell checkers is that if the wrong word used (e.g pail rather than pale) is correctly spelt, the checker won't actually pick it up. In addition many people don't think to check their grammar, so the grammar checker never gets used. In my experience forum software doesn't offer spell-checking, so no help there, unfortunately. I really don't think there's any substitute for learning spellings by heart when we're young enough for them to stick.    Report

09/05/2008, 22:42 krusty Joined on 13/08/2006 haute vienne (87) Posts 2,602 Re: English as she is spoke ? Who remembers "it aint arf hot mum" ......Lardy da gunner Graham .....remind you of anyone ? The upper crust always get the micky taken when they mix with lower classes, but dont get uptight there is room for all opinions.    Report

09/05/2008, 22:55 LyndaandRichard Joined on 01/05/2005 Posts 925 Re: English as she is spoke ?  KathyF wrote: The problem with spell checkers is that if the wrong word used (e.g pail rather than pale) is correctly spelt, the checker won't actually pick it up. In addition many people don't think to check their grammar, so the grammar checker never gets used. In my experience forum software doesn't offer spell-checking, so no help there, unfortunately. I really don't think there's any substitute for learning spellings by heart when we're young enough for them to stick. This is true, but the grammar checker would pick this up, and I feel those professionals should be obliged to use it if they cannot use the language properly. There is no excuse imo for those people, it's lazyness. The editors are also failing in their jobs too. They should be picking these errors up too. The Firefox browser has a spell checking add on that can be used and this is useful when using forums, so that option is open to people. There's even a British English version available! Isn't that nice of them? It's available on the Mozilla website in the add ons section. Your Property in France    Report

10/05/2008, 8:16 Thibault Joined on 15/11/2005 Posts 171 Re: English as she is spoke ?  Dick Smith wrote: "Sorry sir , I did not realise I was in the presence of a cultured, educated, intelligent person." Yes, actually you are. Why should I be ashamed of it or hide it, so as not to be ridiculed by posts like this? That is exactly the sort of attitude I was referring to. (And yes, before anyone needs to point it out, I know what a split infinitive is, and that certainly is one.) Is it a peculiarly British thing, that we can take advice from someone who tells us about plumbing, and show respect to that person, but someone who has any form of 'academic' knowledge is instantly ridiculed? To what inadequacy does it speak?   Hear, hear, Dick Thibault    Report

10/05/2008, 8:35 ErnieY Joined on 05/12/2006 Nr Prayssac (Lot) Posts 3,754 Re: English as she is spoke ?  Dick Smith wrote: I just heard a reporter on the BBC referring to the cyclone in Burma causing 'indiscriminating' damage. A new one for me. Unfortunately our American cousins are responsible for much of this bastardisation (lets see that get past the filter !) What the he11 is "re-architected" for instance, or numerous other "non" words, all of which unfortunately escape me at this moment in time, or should that be, escape me at this moment in time, unfortunately  LyndaandRichard wrote: On a forum, these things are forgiveable. In the national press when you frequently see these errors, it is quite disturbing as these are supposed to be the 'cream of the literary crop' The press, the cream of the literary crop, you are joking of course, they are some of the worst and most overt  offenders. The least said about the gutter press the better but even the quality broadsheets are far from innocent Mind you, doesn't this go to the heart of the topic though; if the press are indeed held up to be the 'cream of the literary crop' and are still making these gaffs what hope is there ? My doctor said one drink per day, I can live with that !    Report

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