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 12/05/2008, 14:27
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Martinwatkins
Joined on 23/08/2004
W Devon/NE Perigord
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Re: More channels FTA this morning
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@CBC
Glad it's improved things.
To be honest to prevent rain fade completely you need a big big margin of comfort, and unless you're after broadcast standards it's not worth it. A lot of BBC analogue relays are spec'd to produce "perfect" pictures for 99% of the time, which when you work it out means that in theory they can be "down" or substandard for 15 mins per day. If it all happens at once (which in the case of an off air relay it often does, during summer "lift" conditions), over a week's period it could be down for a total of twelve hours and STILL be operating to spec if it's fine the rest of the year. It's just not worth flinging more money at the problem unless millions of viewers are going to lose the signal, which in the case of a relay won't be the case, at most tens of thousands!!
I believe the Shetland relay is spec'd to 95% and I'm told that it often does produce sub standard pictures.
Much the same can be applied to satellite, unless you need the pics for 100% of the time it's not worth the extra investment. Anyway, being personally interested in things technical it's boring if they work the whole time!!
80 cms should be fine for almost all but the worst clouds and rain.
With regard to the other debate about cable, I've never used anything but bog standard sat cable and I've never had any problems, even on 40 m runs. I would be really sure to check that the dish is giving its all before relying on a cable upgrade to make the magical difference. But as we've all advised here before, connections en-route are very bad news and do need sorting out, and if all else fails then of course it's worth making sure the cable is top quality and the advice you've already been given is excellent.
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12/05/2008, 15:29
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Tim
 
Joined on 19/03/2007
76 Haute Normandie
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Re: More channels FTA this morning
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Thanks Ernie - I meant to say in my rather lengthy "lecture" that the tape should be stretched to be effective, so thanks for the clarification.
I have seen it at Maplins when in the UK but I wonder whether if anyone has seen it France? I've never had to look for the stuff myself as a couple of rolls I have in stock have lasted quite a long time, but the day will come when I will need to get some more. The Google translator suggests 'auto fusion' which seems to describe it quite well. Anybody have any better ideas?
Regards - Tim
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12/05/2008, 16:42
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gosub
Joined on 15/01/2008
North 47
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Re: More channels FTA this morning
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"I have seen it at Maplins when in the UK but I wonder whether if
anyone has seen it France? I've never had to look for the stuff myself
as a couple of rolls I have in stock have lasted quite a long time, but
the day will come when I will need to get some more. The Google
translator suggests 'auto fusion' which seems to describe it quite well. Anybody have any better ideas?"
It does exist in France and it has several uses one is supposed to be a pipe repair tape, I have some around I will try to find out the name of the product.
Les
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12/05/2008, 16:45
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Martinwatkins
Joined on 23/08/2004
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Why does my Aviatar (if it had a picture which it doesn't) now say "Top 200 posts". I've only just noticed.
Oh - two minutes later - it doesn't anymore, I'm back to the pill symbols.
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12/05/2008, 20:47
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Gyn_Paul
Joined on 23/08/2004
La Creuse - God's own Dept.
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We lose our sat signal whenever a great big storm system hoves into view (<4 times a year), but since we almost always lose the electricity at the same time, it quickly becomes academic, and I certainly wouldn't bother upgrading the dish size.
I agree with Martin (surprise, surprise). I have a quad LNB at one end of the barn, the first feed goes to a receiver just the other side of the wall (about 4 m) whereas the fourth one goes to the far end of the living room (about 42 m). There is - for all practical purposes - no difference in the performance of either satbox. That's using single runs of the more expensive of the two sat cables offered by Brico Depot. Which is another way of saying bog-standard + 1.
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14/05/2008, 16:42
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Mike1958
Joined on 23/08/2004
Bagneres de Luchon
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I have rescanned using my digibox and have picked up E4, E4+1, More 4 and More 4+1 but no Channel 4. Does this channel sometimes show as something else?
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14/05/2008, 16:48
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Martinwatkins
Joined on 23/08/2004
W Devon/NE Perigord
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I haven't checked today but ch 4 FTA version goes under the charming title of 8350.
If it's a non sky box then just save the channels and choose 8350 when you want to watch ch 4; if it's a Sky box with no valid card of any sort then do a scan on 10729 MHz and save the channel labelled 8350.
No need for this if you have a FTV card for a Sky box as you can go on using ch 104
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14/05/2008, 18:43
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Baz
Joined on 23/08/2004
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14/05/2008, 19:00
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Anton Redman
Joined on 23/08/2004
Gironde
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Its called auto vulcanising. Normally in the plumbing section as a tape for stopping leaks. Always feel I should use it to stick points on my ears.
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