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08/05/2008, 16:17
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Quillan

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Just trying to move this thread back to the topic in hand ...
I mentioned the comments from various Surrey voters who expressed disappointment that they didn't have the opportunity to vote in the London Mayoral elections. I appreciate not everyone thinks that "Surrey van drivers" should influence the vote but it is daft to think that the Mayor's decisions don't directly influence those just outside of central London. Congestion charge for a start ... those inside the zone get a substantial discount but those outside, including those from Surrey, etc., who need to bring tools, equipment, etc., into London have to pay this and end up passing the charge onto their customers, thereby making them more expensive and not as competitive with quotes, etc.
Our rates contain a surcharge to the Mayor of London, yet we don't have a vote on it!! That does seem unfair (taxation without representation, and all that). And with regard to transport - sure, if you live in central London then it is easy to get around but if you are a commuter from teh suburbs then the Mayor's transport policies do affect you, but you don't have a vote.
And I have a bone to pick with Ken Livingstone. While he was banging on about congestion, reducing traffic etc., and generally making the car London's worst enemy, my husband saw him sitting in the back of a huge limousine in central London. A case of "do as I say, not as I do"?
Anyway, thank goodness for Boris. Not necessarily for what he is going to do, but as an alternative to Red Ken and his cronies.
Now, has that brought us back to the subject in hand (and no more talk of grammatical errors, please !!!)
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Not so much a political thing but it does seem a bit odd to have to give money to something of which you have no say. I was thinking that it may not just be Surrey either, Essex comes to mind as does Kent but it's only a guess on my part.
See there's a spelling mistake there...... only joking, only joking, wink wink, nod nod Sorry No more I promise.
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08/05/2008, 18:21
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Ron Avery
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"And with regard to transport - sure, if you live in central London then it is easy to get around but if you are a commuter from the suburbs then the Mayor's transport policies do affect you, but you don't have a vote"
Do you mean commute in the suburbs or from the suburbs? If you mean in the suburbs then your bus services are funded and controlled by Surrey County Council, not TfL, so if they are inadequate, take it up with them or vote in a different council. Only bus routes coming from London into Surrey are TfL controlled routes.
If you mean a commuter from Surrey, you have excellent train services into London and then you have the benefit of the excellent transport services provided by TfL for London by the ratepayers of the London Boroughs and by the congestion charge, not you.
If you follow your argument that anyone who is affected by the Mayor of London's transport policies should get a vote, then so should anyone who ever uses a bus or train to or from or in London. Maybe the Mayor should change his transport policies and withdraw the all-night 30 minute bus services he had put on so that all you Surrey ratepayers could get home from the theatre or clubbing anytime of the night and to places in Surrey never served by night buses before like Sutton, Croydon, Carshalton, Worcester Park and Kingston all paid for by the London ratepayer and not Surrey County Council ratepayers.
Why not just post a sensible answer, people will appreciate it more
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08/05/2008, 19:21
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tegwini

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Thanks Quillian - corrected- one-off typo & correct elsewhere.
On topic... there has been lots of interest in the latest elections - more than usual for local elections. As most of us are so fed up with this useless government people would have voted for anyone to punish them and make them listen.
Anyone standing against Red Ken, even Mickey Mouse would have beaten him.
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08/05/2008, 20:50
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Dick Smith

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I thought he did.
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08/05/2008, 21:12
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Russethouse

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08/05/2008, 21:19
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Dick Smith

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It's good isn't it? Boris trivialises politics, and then comments like that trivialise his trivialisation...
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08/05/2008, 21:20
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Dick Smith

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Sorry, I meant to write Bori's trivialise's.
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