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23/04/2008, 9:41 just john Joined on 28/04/2005 Montignac le coq Posts 383 Re: déjeuner du matin? A completely different analysis from a man's perspective, (I know, sue me . . . I have resisted, but had to come back to it!) clearly they were in love until recently but have had a passionate argument, the photo is broken, (I know its a detail in the film not the poem but perceptive nonetheless), He does not show he is angry with her, his emotions are damaged, he is resigned to silence until she can find the right words, (to say my fault, I'm sorry, just chokes her!) He takes no possessions, he will return and they will be forced to painfully work this through. He shows no emotion nor says anything because his words cannot resolve this situation, he is numbed. She cries, (not in front of him) ipso facto she is the guilty party and knows it; she cannot restrain or hold him because of the damage she has done, she is distraught by his discovery of her mistake and cannot find the way forward. She shouldn't have overspent on the credit card and hid the statement last month! I think the music is Erik Satie - Gymnopédie No.1, which was nice, but should have been The hardest word! friends come and go, but someone precious you should hold on to. the real troubles in your life are apt to be things that never crossed your worried mind, and blindside you at 4pm on some idle Tuesday    Report

23/04/2008, 11:58 sweet 17 Joined on 05/08/2006 charente maritime Posts 2,960 Re: déjeuner du matin? Thank you, John, for that.  It's uncannily like real life. I love Satie though I'm not usually a "modern" music fan. BTW, hope you're getting on OK and being good to yourself. Very best regards    Report

23/04/2008, 13:15 just john Joined on 28/04/2005 Montignac le coq Posts 383 Re: déjeuner du matin? I'm not making assumptions of course () merely offering my take in a modern scenerio; In 1946 whenever, I doubt she would have had unfettered access to a store card! I found this, http://www.ph-ludwigsburg.de/html/2b-frnz-s-01/overmann/baf4/prevert/dejeuner.htm and I didn't read right through but like the section where students have to write the ending, great opportunities! my preference was Babettes, especially the details of the embrace! BABETTE Mais quoi? Il est retourné! Il a apporté des fleurs! Il a mis les fleurs dans une vase. “Je regrette,” il a dit. “Et je regrette,” j’ai dit. Nous nous embrassons et Il a mis la main sur mes fesses! J’étais fâché! Et je suis parti! Et il a pris la tête dans la main, et il a pleuré.   Thanks for asking Sweet 17 I still have a normal head most of the time! (but also two others now, a past head and a future head, don't lets go there on here.) the real troubles in your life are apt to be things that never crossed your worried mind, and blindside you at 4pm on some idle Tuesday    Report

23/04/2008, 14:43 sweet 17 Joined on 05/08/2006 charente maritime Posts 2,960 Re: déjeuner du matin? John I had great fun with your link and I laughed aloud at some of it.  Didn't realise what a well-known piece this was!    Report

23/04/2008, 18:55 Pads Joined on 24/05/2006 Cornwall/ Montage Noir Posts 3,426 Re: déjeuner du matin? Thats a really good site just john Thankyou . Dirty Tom =^..^= Where ever I lay my paw thats my home    Report

23/04/2008, 19:18 Monika Joined on 23/08/2004 Dorset/Suisse Normande/Switzerland Posts 640 Re: déjeuner du matin? I think you got it all wrong, she has finished with him and agreed to see him one last time (87 % of women finish relationships, men muddle along!). Of course she cries at the end because it is sad to end a relationship.    Report

23/04/2008, 20:37 sweet 17 Joined on 05/08/2006 charente maritime Posts 2,960 Re: déjeuner du matin? It's just crazy.  But, on the other hand, life's like that.  We try but we don't connect and we call it a day. I think that's what it's all about.  We love each other, we can't agree, we agree to part in a more or less civilised way but we may or may not get together again in the future.  What do you think?    Report

23/04/2008, 20:45 Clair Joined on 23/08/2004 ------- Forum Moderator ------- Lot (46) Posts 7,792 Re: déjeuner du matin? She's thinking "I can't believe he's gone... Thank God it's all over!.. He's gone. He's really really gone...! I'm so relieved I could cry!" Clair Real Virtual French Person    Report

23/04/2008, 20:50 sweet 17 Joined on 05/08/2006 charente maritime Posts 2,960 Re: déjeuner du matin? Clair, please, please put that in French in a format that would agree with the poem.  I am now really, really intrigued. I have thought along the lines of ....he leaves the cafe, walks along the left bank of the Seine and he commits suicide. But, what do I know, as my French teacher says, I lack the romanticism of French people!    Report

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