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11/03/2008, 13:51 raindog Joined on 26/09/2007 HERAULT Posts 796 Re: Rugby World Cup 3rd XV Maybe things are moving at last.....    "A report in Tuesday's Guardian suggests, once again, that Jake White is set to be brought in as England coach, this time in the wake of England's disastrous Six Nations campaign.   The report, citing "sources at the RFU", says that an inquest to be held post-tournament and conducted by Rob Andrew should be concluded within two weeks of the Six Nations' completion, and will point at the lack of forward direction in the England team since the run that took them to the World Cup final in October." sociability is just a big smile and a big smile is nothing but teeth    Report

11/03/2008, 15:33 PeterG Joined on 15/11/2005 Lancs/Yorks border - 79 Posts 311 Re: Rugby World Cup 3rd XV Oh no ................ Wilko dropped Balshaw still in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A wasted day is one where you have not laughed.    Report

11/03/2008, 20:08 plod Joined on 17/05/2007 Posts 233 Re: Rugby World Cup 3rd XV I just think that you don't go anywhere near a night club a couple of days before your international debut; surely his brain was saying: "I ought not to be here". I imagine he has broken team discipline and Ashton had no alternative. (Read Brian Moore on this) Balshaw did not have a bad game. It looks like Ashton has said to the team: "You cocked it up, you put it right." Having said that though he should have left Jonny in. I've said several times Ashton has missed an opportunity to blood young players. He will now have to do it on a tour of NZ!!    Report

11/03/2008, 20:34 Quillan Joined on 23/08/2004 Forum Moderator Posts 3,909 Re: Rugby World Cup 3rd XV  plod wrote: I just think that you don't go anywhere near a night club a couple of days before your international debut; surely his brain was saying: "I ought not to be here". I imagine he has broken team discipline and Ashton had no alternative. (Read Brian Moore on this) Can't disagree with you on that, its exactly what I think. The problem was that Ashton assumed he had been drinking there, banned him and then discovered he had not had even a Coke but by then it was to late. Perhaps Ashton should have listened to the player and not the media.  plod wrote: Balshaw did not have a bad game. It looks like Ashton has said to the team: "You cocked it up, you put it right." Having said that though he should have left Jonny in. I've said several times Ashton has missed an opportunity to blood young players. He will now have to do it on a tour of NZ!! JW has not been consistent for some time now including during the world cup. He is either fantastic or just plain dull, unimaginative and plays badly, something he seems to do more of these days. He normally manages to pull something out when threatened with being dropped, one only has to see his excellent performance against the French after being allegedly threatened over his previous game performance. Strangely Montgomery is the same, I watch him play regularly at Perpignan. Sometimes he just refuses to handle the ball or do anything with it but that's another story. http://www.chambresdhote.com    Report

11/03/2008, 21:21 UlsterRugby1999 Joined on 27/04/2006 Posts 217 Re: Rugby World Cup 3rd XV Come on guys - you are getting too feckin tied up in this. Plod says read Brian Moore on this - goodness me plod if I want info or insight Moore is the last numbnut I'd go to. Try reading Woodward on it instead and he blasts Ashton for it. And Moore - mother of God he has followed no rules ever in his bloody life why now does he grow angels wings. Ashton made an *** of himself and thats it. Re Wilkinson - lest you all forget - he got you to and won the 2003 RWC and he got you to and nealry won the 2007 RWC. The gameplan has been built around pack domination, forcing penalties and position for drop goals and Wilkinson collecting the 3 points. If the man doesnt suit your gameplane then he must step aside - the problem within the England camp is that the gameplan changes so many times with so many differing and inconsisten players that Wilkinson hasnt got a hope in hell. Put him out to pasture with a damn fine pension. If, as it is now being rumoured that jake White will take over then God help us all. He will do wonders for you guys [:-(]    Report

11/03/2008, 21:54 Alan Zoff Joined on 27/07/2005 Allier 03 Posts 574 Re: Rugby World Cup 3rd XV JW didn't have his greatest match against Scotland. (British understatement.) But who else did? The flair was lacking but he did manage to score England's only points. Moore was criticising him almost from the off. I even suggested half-way through the first half that he was being so anti Wilkinson that he must have caught him messing around with Mrs M. Mind you, before the sorry mess ended, I was being none too complimentary myself about any of the England team. This calm, composed, stiff upper lip stuff from the management might be very English and traditional. But personally, I would like to see a lot more passion being displayed from the top down. We might still lose but at least it would LOOK as though we wanted to win. "Live your dreams, don't dream your life"    Report

12/03/2008, 8:43 raindog Joined on 26/09/2007 HERAULT Posts 796 Re: Rugby World Cup 3rd XV  UlsterRugby1999 wrote: Re Wilkinson - lest you all forget - he got you to and won the 2003 RWC and he got you to and nealry won the 2007 RWC. We haven't forgotten, but he doesn't seem to be half the player he was - and don't forget, he got an armchair ride behind Johnno and the other lads up front. Me granny could've played at 10 behind that pack. We also had Greenwood behind to open things up a bit - since he went there's been precious little ceativity at centre. Wilkinson always looked good in those days when England were winning - and we were winning most of the time - but as soon as we were on the back foot he always seemed a bit wobbly, even then. I agree with plod about Cipriani - it's all a bit too bl00dy late now. Cipriani and Lewsey should have been starting matches right from the start of this year's 6N, then perhaps we wouldn't be in the mess we are. Now, if we lose on saturday, it could damage Cipriani's international career for some time to come. Look what happened to Mathew Tait. edit: hehe - just read this by Matt Dawson    "Will Greenwood's communication and understanding made the game easy for Jonny.    He could say "kick it there" or "give me the ball" - there was a running commentary so he could execute the call, and Jonny was one of the best executors of rugby skills around.     England need those types of player back - and pretty quickly." sociability is just a big smile and a big smile is nothing but teeth    Report

15/03/2008, 6:41 UlsterRugby1999 Joined on 27/04/2006 Posts 217 Re: Rugby World Cup 3rd XV Its make or break time today. I need England to win by 20 plus points. Pleaseeeeeeeeeeee plod I see Charlie Hodgson was on song last nightfor Sale. You guys are missing something right now.    Report

15/03/2008, 16:29 TWINKLE Joined on 11/03/2006 Tarn 81 Posts 3,930 Re: Rugby World Cup 3rd XV My Dragon is blowing outside on my gate and the old neighbours are giving me funny looks again - but who cares? The Chablis is chilling in the fridge and I shall be crying to the Welsh National anthem while my fellow countrymen sing it in Cardiff.  I'm on me todd but I will not feel alone but I will feel the Hiraeth! Oggi, oggi, oggi!!! The Grand Slam is ours!!!!!!!!!!!    Report

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