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21/11/2006, 20:17 Josephine79 Joined on 07/03/2005 Posts 19 Re: Dodgy tenants Yes, BUT........ they're in the wrong, you have an eviction order signed by the judge, but that doesn't mean they'll go. They have nothing to lose. Unfortunately if you evict them by force you have plenty to lose.    Report

21/11/2006, 21:59 J.R's gone native Joined on 16/07/2006 Picardie, Sussex Posts 2,048 Re: Dodgy tenants Do people with no assets and nothing to lose get free representation (or legal aid) such as in the UK? I not then what can they do?    Report

21/11/2006, 22:05 J.R's gone native Joined on 16/07/2006 Picardie, Sussex Posts 2,048 Re: Dodgy tenants One can also make life difficult without cutting off services. A restrictor in the water supply reducing it to a trickle means that they would have to gather and store water in buckets to use on demand, I believe that this is what General Des Eau does. I once resolved a situation where the continual tripping of the electrical RCD and my refusal to investigate until the rent was paid was quite effective. A little electrical knowledge and a radio controlled switching relay goes a long way!    Report

21/11/2006, 23:42 Frederick Joined on 17/04/2006 Grues / Vendee(85) & Dorset Posts 321 Re: Dodgy tenants As an ex landlord renting through a well known South Coast agency in the UK I discovered just what a Short Term Letting Agreement was worth on one occasion.and just how much of a waste of  time an agency could be .Rent stopped being paid...agents wrote to the tenants.....letters were ignored....arrears built up...and .agents were lax in not visiting the property to chase it up. I visited my property to discover the people who had taken out the agreement had  "rented " out the house to three lads and moved on .having got their deposit back from them .... and I was left with what were in fact squatters..... . luckily when I told them to get out and go sleep under the pier they left....      Report

22/11/2006, 13:01 Ariege Auberge Joined on 28/04/2005 Posts 12 Re: Dodgy tenants Josephine Your tenants probably still have their old address on their cheques because they are in temporary accommodation - I'm presuming they are not on holiday for 12 months??  I still think that the proof of address is adequate for GITE owners which was the point of your original post. If the owner decides to extend the let beyond the 3 months maximum for tourist accommodation then the tenant has far more rights and is incredibly protected and as you say more checks need to be carried out.      Report

22/11/2006, 14:05 Josephine79 Joined on 07/03/2005 Posts 19 Re: Dodgy tenants Ariege: what do you mean "temporary accomodation"? They have signed a three year lease. But 12 months in to it they still have their previous address on their cheques. They have doubtless updated their details with the bank and will be receiving bank statements in their present home, but if they have an old cheque book they are entitled to carry on using it. And bearing in mind how few cheques anyone writes these days a chequebook can last for eons. My point is that an address on a cheque is no form of guarantee that the signatory of the cheque (and your supposedly short term let) actually lives at the place indicated. Although the gite owner in the case which was the subject of my original post refused to extend the contract for the gite beyond the original fortnight the family just stayed there without paying rent and despite the eviction order obtained against them. The bailiff could do nothing. A further word of warning. In this case the tenants offered rent for the next month after the end of their "fortnight". The gite owner turned it down because if she had accepted it it would have given them a de facto contract. So they were "occupants sans titre" with a court judgement against them, but when it came down to it they were in the gite and nothing further could be done.    Report

22/11/2006, 14:08 Josephine79 Joined on 07/03/2005 Posts 19 Re: Dodgy tenants Some nice ideas there J.R. . Unfortunately they are already complaining that they will sue because the electricity is unsafe (it isn't) and threatening to call the police if anyone goes round to try and fix it or anything else ..........    Report

22/11/2006, 17:16 Chief Joined on 13/06/2006 Wherever i am today Posts 312 Re: Dodgy tenants  Josephine79 wrote: Some nice ideas there J.R. . Unfortunately they are already complaining that they will sue because the electricity is unsafe (it isn't) and threatening to call the police if anyone goes round to try and fix it or anything else ..........   Pay some heavies, have them moved, and make it clear what the consequences are if they pursue you.  It is only my view, but on principle (ie: having worked myself stupid for what i have), i would have them moved.  Strip the roof, flood them out, white noise them to death, dig a massive wide trench around the property, ensure they never get to sleep day or night, block all access and egress to the property, and if necessary....well we won't even go there in respect of what i would do if i was angry...do whatever you have to to move them on.......by the time i had finished i would have them begging me to let them leave!! You might not be responsible for being down, but you are responsible for getting back up again.....    Report

23/11/2006, 3:54 Fumanzoku Joined on 23/08/2004 Posts 151 Re: Dodgy tenants "Pay some heavies, have them moved, and make it clear what the consequences are if they pursue you.  It is only my view, but on principle (ie: having worked myself stupid for what i have), i would have them moved.  Strip the roof, flood them out, white noise them to death, dig a massive wide trench around the property, ensure they never get to sleep day or night, block all access and egress to the property, and if necessary....well we won't even go there in respect of what i would do if i was angry...do whatever you have to to move them on.......by the time i had finished i would have them begging me to let them leave!!" Sounds like an average day in (occupied) Palestine. Why not hire a helicopter gunship Chief? Hover over the house for a few days, strafe the driveway, drop marines down the chimney... ;)    Report

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