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   17/05/2008, 16:46
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Gynocologist (lady) here was well impressed when I told her my OH had had a vasectomy and said how good the British men were to have the op as the French men were very naughty and refused to do so (in general - perhaps not all).

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   17/05/2008, 19:07
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I am a French woman and you are right, it is really not popular in France, people find it weird, even women.

There are other options than the pill ot vasectomy, isn't it ?? ( a coil, an implant..)

I am Ok with being in control of contraception, because it is very easy.

What I don't like is that vasectomy is irreversible.

What if a couple divorces and the man gets involved with a woman who wants children ?

But as the OP said, each individual is entitled to his/her own opinion. 


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   17/05/2008, 19:52
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Actually Frenchie, theoretically at least, it is reversible, but the success rate is far from 100% which is why it's best to be absolutely sure before having it done and regard it as a one way street Wink [;-)] 
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   17/05/2008, 20:20
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I know a British couple who can't have a baby because he had a vasectomy .. A few years after, he divorced, met her, and they can't have the baby they wanted together..

Sad..

ErnieY , thanks for the post, I didn't know it was theoretically  reversible. 


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   17/05/2008, 20:25
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 Frenchie wrote:

What if a couple divorces and the man gets involved with a woman who wants children ?


We will then have one less situation to be subsidized by the punitive taxation of single people.



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   17/05/2008, 20:44
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There can of course be many unforseen circumstances in which one may come to regret a vasectomy. One way to insure against this would be to 'bank' some sperm prior to a vasectomy.

Do they have sperm banks and IV clinics in France I wonder?

 


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   17/05/2008, 20:49
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Of course we have them, Ernie.

 


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   17/05/2008, 20:49
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 Frenchie wrote:

I know a British couple who can't have a baby because he had a vasectomy .. A few years after, he divorced, met her, and they can't have the baby they wanted together..

This is one of the hypothetical issues that has to be explored in pre-vasectomy counselling. Another possibility to contemplate is "what if" your existing children died? There are other really difficult situations too, and it is crucial that anyone contemplating a vasectomy will have given much thought to all those possibilities. For these reasons, it used to be much easier for a man to get a vasectomy if he was in a stable, solid and long-term relationship. Usually, his partner would be involved in the decision-making process, and would come for counselling too.

This being said, the vasectomy reversal success rate is much higher now than it was 10 or 20 years ago.

I had not realised that vasectomy was still so taboo in France. As I was working in that area  for many years in England, I had assumed that it was quite normal to consider a vasectomy (or female sterilisation),  when other contraceptive methods were unsuccessful or dangerous for the woman. 

 


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   17/05/2008, 20:55
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It's interesting that such a big deal can be made about a vasectomy and those same people will think little or nothing of the health implications of a women spending years and years taking the pill, or hormonal implants, both of which can have a serious implication on her health.

The world is greatly overpopulated and we're spending resources like there's no tomorrow - a bit more restraint on the ole breeding front can do nothing but good!  (there's a programme on UK tv shortly about people with 11 children and more!  How irresponsible is that?  Presuming they are earning enough to pay for their offsprings' upkeep, how can they possibly afford the time to spend neuturing them?  I'll watch the programme, maybe I'll be enlightened).

I'm not sure what I think about the French practice of a man being forced to take his wife to give the OK to the procedure (if that still happens)  ... what happened to patient confidentiality.  I would be FURIOUS if my partner had snuck off and done it rather than it being a joint decision  .. .but I wouldn't want to take away his RIGHT to do it.


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