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 17/05/2008, 20:25
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Gengulphus
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 Frenchie wrote: | What if a couple divorces and the man gets involved with a woman who wants children ? |
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We will then have one less situation to be subsidized by the punitive taxation of single people.
It's good, provided it lasts…
Letizia Bonaparte
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17/05/2008, 20:49
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5-element
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| Frenchie wrote: | |
I know a British couple who can't have a baby because he had a vasectomy .. A few years after, he divorced, met her, and they can't have the baby they wanted together..
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This is one of the hypothetical issues that has to be explored in pre-vasectomy counselling. Another possibility to contemplate is "what if" your existing children died? There are other really difficult situations too, and it is crucial that anyone contemplating a vasectomy will have given much thought to all those possibilities. For these reasons, it used to be much easier for a man to get a vasectomy if he was in a stable, solid and long-term relationship. Usually, his partner would be involved in the decision-making process, and would come for counselling too.
This being said, the vasectomy reversal success rate is much higher now than it was 10 or 20 years ago.
I had not realised that vasectomy was still so taboo in France. As I was working in that area for many years in England, I had assumed that it was quite normal to consider a vasectomy (or female sterilisation), when other contraceptive methods were unsuccessful or dangerous for the woman.
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17/05/2008, 20:55
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newbiee
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It's interesting that such a big deal can be made about a vasectomy and those same people will think little or nothing of the health implications of a women spending years and years taking the pill, or hormonal implants, both of which can have a serious implication on her health.
The world is greatly overpopulated and we're spending resources like there's no tomorrow - a bit more restraint on the ole breeding front can do nothing but good! (there's a programme on UK tv shortly about people with 11 children and more! How irresponsible is that? Presuming they are earning enough to pay for their offsprings' upkeep, how can they possibly afford the time to spend neuturing them? I'll watch the programme, maybe I'll be enlightened).
I'm not sure what I think about the French practice of a man being forced to take his wife to give the OK to the procedure (if that still happens) ... what happened to patient confidentiality. I would be FURIOUS if my partner had snuck off and done it rather than it being a joint decision .. .but I wouldn't want to take away his RIGHT to do it.
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17/05/2008, 21:02
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Frenchie
 
Joined on 31/05/2007
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I wouldn't say it is a taboo in France, just that it is considered a bit weird.
Just as female sterilisation would be .
As two posters wrote in this thread, it has to do with cultural differences.
When the pill is a pb , women usually have an implant or a coil.
Happy
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17/05/2008, 23:26
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Iceni
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| newbiee wrote: | |
Presuming they are earning enough to pay for their offsprings' upkeep, how can they possibly afford the time to spend neuturing them? I'll watch the programme, maybe I'll be enlightened).
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Not sure that it's just the kids that need neutering but lest the offspring carry on in the same way as the parents perhaps it's a good idea anyway.
John
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18/05/2008, 3:35
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woolybanana'sbrother
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So, there is quite a degree of discomfort over the issue of female and male mutilation for contraceptive purposes. Which is reflected in the relatively complex rules surroundiing its availability. I did wonder. The resistance in France may be more than old fashioned prejudice then, rather an instinct that something ain't right.
Some of the alternatives being offered elsewhere such as abortion on demand up to 24 weeks seem to be equally unacceptable, witness the tortured debate currently under way.
Didn't Rajiv Ghandi family offer a transistor radio to men who came forward for male sterilisation? And he was assassinated.
There do seem to be many many other methods around which do not involve mutilation, though being too embarrassed to pack the necessary because the servants might see is probably the worst excuse I have ever heard for getting a bun in the oven.
Why then was I shot down for expressing reservations?
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18/05/2008, 9:01
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Belle
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I have been reading all the threads from you WBB, RE; vasectomy, and have noticed that you use the word 'mutilation' quite alot, is this a favourite word of yours, or have you no idea what actually happens when a vasectomy is carried out, I think you are getting mixed up with castration, my O/h had his vasectomy carried out 39 years ago, if we hadn't decided on this together, and he had decided to go off on his own to get it sorted, then I would never have know, to put it bluntly, everything looked the same, felt the same, and deffinately performed the same, and to this day 39 years later, still does, hubby says going to the dentist is far worse, plus you can't talk after and you dribble, not so with a vassey, maybe dribble should have been excluded, but hopefully you get my drift.
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