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09/05/2008, 21:08 Dick Smith Joined on 23/08/2004 Surrey and Manche (Pays Mortainais) Posts 8,735 Re: English as she is spoke ? That's a very interesting question! I suspect that 'the cream' has been an expression meaning the best for a long time. So the cream of anything is the best. The crop part - could it have something to do with advertising? This is the best of whatever you are thinking about at the moment? Apparently it dates back to at least the 1890s, in reference to the best part of fruit crops. Regards Dick Smith Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground    Report

09/05/2008, 21:13 sweet 17 Joined on 05/08/2006 charente maritime Posts 2,123 Re: English as she is spoke ? I do like the explanation, Dick.  I just would not have associated "cream" with crops though I could see perfectly well that the cream has got to be the best part.    Report

09/05/2008, 21:17 Dick Smith Joined on 23/08/2004 Surrey and Manche (Pays Mortainais) Posts 8,735 Re: English as she is spoke ? My favourite is the reference to the toffs as being the 'cream of the regiment'. White, thick and clotted. Regards Dick Smith Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground    Report

09/05/2008, 21:21 sweet 17 Joined on 05/08/2006 charente maritime Posts 2,123 Re: English as she is spoke ? You'll get into trouble for that remark which could be construed as being racist.  I thought it was rich, thick and clotted.  At least that's more PC, non?    Report

09/05/2008, 21:26 ErnieY Joined on 05/12/2006 Nr Prayssac (Lot) Posts 3,048 Re: English as she is spoke ? Dick, I meant right and OK when used as meaningless prefix - e.g. opening a new thread with Right, I want to move to France or OK, my mum and dad want to move to France etc. I'm sure you get my drift. As a response to a question or agreement to a comment in an ongoing dialogue it's perfectly alright of course. My doctor said one drink per day, I can live with that !    Report

09/05/2008, 21:40 Dick Smith Joined on 23/08/2004 Surrey and Manche (Pays Mortainais) Posts 8,735 Re: English as she is spoke ? I understood what you meant - I just have less of a problem with it than other egregious errors. I can accept it as a stylistic device, and it probably reflects how the poster speaks. Regards Dick Smith Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground    Report

09/05/2008, 21:50 tigerfeet Joined on 01/10/2007 Posts 94 Re: English as she is spoke ?  Dick Smith wrote: Why do people prefer that other people see them as being less cultured, educated, intelligent than others? Sorry sir , I did not realise I was in the presence of a cultured, educated, intelligent person. Blame Archant they let riff raff like me in.    Report

09/05/2008, 21:53 ErnieY Joined on 05/12/2006 Nr Prayssac (Lot) Posts 3,048 Re: English as she is spoke ? Apologies then but of course we are all different and have our own pet likes and dislikes. How about fingernails down the blackboard or My doctor said one drink per day, I can live with that !    Report

09/05/2008, 21:55 Dick Smith Joined on 23/08/2004 Surrey and Manche (Pays Mortainais) Posts 8,735 Re: English as she is spoke ? "Sorry sir , I did not realise I was in the presence of a cultured, educated, intelligent person." Yes, actually you are. Why should I be ashamed of it or hide it, so as not to be ridiculed by posts like this? That is exactly the sort of attitude I was referring to. (And yes, before anyone needs to point it out, I know what a split infinitive is, and that certainly is one.) Is it a peculiarly British thing, that we can take advice from someone who tells us about plumbing, and show respect to that person, but someone who has any form of 'academic' knowledge is instantly ridiculed? To what inadequacy does it speak? Regards Dick Smith Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground    Report

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