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 05/05/2008, 19:47
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Rob Roy
 
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Re: Should the UK now bar non-British EU residents from free NHS treatment?
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I worked in the NHS, and for years have said that if people were given an itemised account of the cost of their treatment when they left hospital (not to be paid, but for information) they would then, perhaps, appreciate how much it actually costs to treat and look after them. Perhaps it should be extended to their visits to the GP and A&E!
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05/05/2008, 23:45
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Boiling a frog
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Most of my French friends go to the doctor at the drop of a hat.Their attitude is that we pay for it via our contributions and our top up assurance so we need to get our money,s worth.
PS I believe the figure for employed peoples contibution to health care is 0.8% of their salary.
Boiling a frog
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06/05/2008, 0:03
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oscar
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Re: Should the UK now bar non-British EU residents from free NHS treatment?
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 powerdesal wrote: | | KathyF wrote: | | Russethouse wrote: | |
PS I agree with Richard re his healthcare proposals - in fact I would wholly support a move to an insurance based system for the UK.
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Actually, RH, National Insurance isn't for the health service, but for pensions and other benefits, which is why you don't get a proper pension if you haven't paid enough contributions.
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or any pension at all if you cant quote your NI number and they cant find you in the archives, even though you know you have paid enough - but cant prove it.
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With you there Powerdesal. My poor old mum has only had 12 pounds a week pension from the age of 60 to 75 because the "system" lost details of her NI contributions when she owned a pub and she was unable to "prove" that she had paid into the system, which she had, becuase the Post Office that she made her contributions at had been demolished to make a flyover so there were no records. She had since married my step-dad, 10 years younger than her, so she wasn't entitled to a full pension til he was pensionable age, although she had worked from age 14 to 64!!!!
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06/05/2008, 8:55
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powerdesal
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My wife cant prove her contribution history because she cannot quote her NI number. The relevent depts have been extremely helpful in carrying out a search of the NI archives and have finally stated that there is no record and that, in effect, she does not exist as far as NI records are concerned.
Her employer went out of business many years ago and we cannot find such documents as P45 etc due to having lost / misplaced such personal paperwork during many house moves over the years, many moves being due to the requirements of HM Forces.
They can find her parents and her brother but not her. She is presently investigating what can be done to further the search. I imagine that no pension means no E121 which causes yet further "issues". Time will tell!!!!!!!
Steve
Sharjah + 50 (in France)
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Roll on death.....Demob is too far away.
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06/05/2008, 10:00
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Ron Avery
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| Boiling a frog wrote: | |
Most of my French friends go to the doctor at the drop of a hat.Their attitude is that we pay for it via our contributions and our top up assurance so we need to get our money's worth.
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I know that with a CV and a Mutuelle it doesn't actually cost anything, except for the 1€ deduction, in the long run to see a GP, but surely doesn't everybody, excluding those on the assisted CMU, have to pay the 22€ up front to the Doctor?
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06/05/2008, 10:38
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oscar
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| Russethouse wrote: | |
My mother couldn't prove her contributions either but with the help of Paul Lewis from Moneybox and Saga eventually got her entitlement and a lump sum - her records office was bombed during the war.....
Is it really the Post Office that counts, surely they forward the money with a number for it to be allotted too ?
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Well the relevant government department said they had no record of her payments during that period and asked her to prove where she had paid her contributions. They were contributions made in the 60s and the post office and it's staff had long since gone - what a stupid idea that she could have proved it anyway.
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06/05/2008, 10:44
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Judith
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Re: Should the UK now bar non-British EU residents from free NHS treatment?
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| powerdesal wrote: | My wife cant prove her contribution history because she cannot quote her NI number. .......
Her employer went out of business many years ago and we cannot find such documents as P45 etc due to having lost / misplaced such personal paperwork during many house moves over the years, ........
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I can hardly believe this. No-one can work without an NI number (at least they are not supposed to be able to), and the reason given (many house moves) seems to indicate a lackadaisical approach to keeping important paperwork. I've moved many times also (jobs and houses), but not lost the important pieces of information needed. Surely these should always be carried personally and not trusted to a removal van??
Judith
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