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06/04/2008, 9:41 Wilko Joined on 23/08/2004 84 Vaucluse Posts 216 Re: The guide books Have to say  tho' that T/A works for us, why doesn't it work for you Jon ? Rgds Wilko    Report

06/04/2008, 18:02 cassis Joined on 28/12/2007 Manhattan and Glasgow Posts 644 Re: The guide books We have great reviews on Trip Advisor and get a few bookings from it each year, though given the sloppy attitude of the TA site management I would not lose any sleep if TA disappeared tomorrow.  I have found that TA is good in parts but also open to abuse and full of inconsistencies to which the managers are happy to turn a blind eye if it suits them. For example, the town to which each accommodation listing is allocated is not properly monitored - in fact it's frequently billocks and is open to manipulation by owners.  Just looking at the pages for Lower Normandy: On this page for our nearest town of Alençon: http://www.tripadvisor.fr/Hotels-g196641-Alencon_Basse_Normandie_Normandy-Hotels.html The hotel listed at #1 (les Etangs de Guibert) is in a different town altogether, Neufchatel en Saosnois. Similarly, on this page for Bayeux: http://www.tripadvisor.fr/Hotels-g187181-Bayeux_Basse_Normandie_Normandy-Hotels.html The following is not in Bayeux: 1.       La Garenne, is at Meuvaines And on this page : http://www.tripadvisor.fr/Hotels-g187181-c2-Bayeux_Basse_Normandie_Normandy-Hotels.html The following are not in Bayeux: 1.       Chateau de l'Isle-Marie, is at Picauville (also different department) 2.       La Ferme des Perelles,is at Pouligny 3.       Le Chateau de Cottun, is at Cottun 4.       B&B La Foulerie, is at Cahagnes 5.       La Caillerie, is at Cahagnes And on this page : http://www.tripadvisor.fr/Hotels-g187182-Caen_Basse_Normandie_Normandy-Hotels.html The following are not in Caen : 1.       Les Fontaines, is at Barbery 2.       Le Bellevue, is at Chéron 3.       Le Chateau d'Audrieu, is at Audrieu 4.       Hotel Le Canada Hermanville, is at Hermanville 5.       Hotel le Vauban, is at Carentan 6.       La Cremaillere-Le Gytan, is at Courseulles sur Mer 7.       Mercure Saint Lo, is at Saint Lo And on this page : http://www.tripadvisor.fr/Hotels-g187182-c2-Caen_Basse_Normandie_Normandy-Hotels.html The following are not in Caen : 1.       Le Mas Normand, is at Ver Sur Mer 2.       Le Manoir de Crépon, is at Crépon And on this page : http://www.tripadvisor.fr/Hotels-g187191-Rouen_Haute_Normandie_Normandy-Hotels.html The following are not in Caen : 1.       Le Clos des Fontaines, is at Jumieges 2.       Chateau Corneille, Gaillon 3.       Best Western La Berteliere, is at Saint Martin Du Vivier 4.       Hostellerie des Trois Poissons, is at Gisors 5.       Hotel La Villa Marine, is at Le Tréport And on this page : http://www.tripadvisor.fr/Hotels-g196646-Mont_St_Michel_Basse_Normandie_Normandy-Hotels.html The following are not on Le Mont St Michel 1.       Le Fruitier Hotel Restaurant, is at Villedieu les Poeles 2.       Best Western Hotel Montgomery, is at Pontorson 3.       Les 13 Assiettes Hotel, is at Le Val Saint Père 4.       Brit Hotel Relais du Mont, is at Ceaux 5.       Le Cygne et Residence Restaurant, is at Saint Hilaire du Harcouet http://www.tripadvisor.fr/Hotels-g196646-c2-Mont_St_Michel_Basse_Normandie_Normandy-Hotels.html The following are not on Le Mont St Michel 1.       Les Blotteries, is at Juilley 2.       La Jacotiere, is at Ardevon And on this page : http://www.tripadvisor.fr/Hotels-g196646-c3-Mont_St_Michel_Basse_Normandie_Normandy-Hotels.html The following are not on Le Mont St Michel 1.       Au Bon Accueil, is at St Marcan 2.       La vieille Foulonnière, is at Les Pas And on this page : http://www.tripadvisor.fr/Hotels-g187184-Deauville_Basse_Normandie_Normandy-Hotels.html   The following are not in Deauville: 1.       Mercure Deauville Pont l'Eveque, is at Saint Martin aux Chartrains 2.       Pierre et Vacances Le Garden Club, is at Branville 3.       Village-Club Ma Normandie, is at Breville-les-Monts 4.       Hotel Eden Park, is at Pont L'Evêque You might argue that some latitude is permissible, but some of these listings are many a country mile away from the place they claim to be and there is no consistent policy.  I've pointed this out to TA (I didn't just research this for the forum)  but TA don't seem to give a damn. Trip Advisor commentaries are also wide open to abuse, regardless of the protestations of the site owners about rigorous checking and coming down hard on people who abuse the system.  I've spotted a number of places that have a bunch of recommendations in a short period of time then nowt - that, to me, is very suspicious.  Owners can post their own favourable comments just by using a proxy IP and false ID, which is hardly rocket science. Never mind putting friends and relatives up to posting fake reviews. Zoggy played guitar, jammin' good with Weird and Golly. Lyrics copyright Sausage Music 2008    Report

08/04/2008, 21:05 J.R's gone native Joined on 16/07/2006 Picardie, Sussex Posts 2,048 Re: The guide books I have just spent an enjoyable time on trip advisor. I found the establishment mentioned, I neither know or care if it is the one run by one of the posters, I did though enjoy the guests coments and the replys, the male of the establishment seems very well balanced in his replies. I also checked out accomodation in my region and  found only one major chain hotel which is universally known locally to be terrible, and that is saying something bearing in mind that all the others are awfull! The very first review was glowing, gave 5 stars for everything and purported to be from Mary and John from London, it was "ow do wee sayee" clearly written by a very French Marie et Jean hoping to promote their hotel, perhaps I should offer to retranslate it for them Given the above I would tend to believe the bad reviews especially if countered by the owners opinions and be very suspicious of overly good reviews.    Report

09/04/2008, 13:45 J.R's gone native Joined on 16/07/2006 Picardie, Sussex Posts 2,048 Re: The guide books The posting I made here last night has been removed along with a few others, I dont think that I posted anything contensious, is there a reason?    Report

09/04/2008, 14:14 cassis Joined on 28/12/2007 Manhattan and Glasgow Posts 644 Re: The guide books No.  I saw what you posted (and all the other stuff) this morning and it all appeared innocent enough. But there does not have to be a reason for stuff to be deleted or edited.  Such things can happen at a whim, at random, like a lightning strike or a drop of bird poop from the air. Zoggy played guitar, jammin' good with Weird and Golly. Lyrics copyright Sausage Music 2008    Report

09/04/2008, 14:20 Clair Joined on 23/08/2004 ------- Forum Moderator ------- Lot (46) Posts 7,806 Re: The guide books Sorry J.R. Some posts have been removed after a complaint made by a forum member and yours went at the same time. I'll see if I can re-attach it... (forum software ) Clair Real Virtual French Person    Report

09/04/2008, 14:21 cassis Joined on 28/12/2007 Manhattan and Glasgow Posts 644 Re: The guide books Not sure, J.R.  A reply to your message went missing, too.  Maybe there's a fault in the software?  I saw what you posted (and all the other stuff) this morning and it all appeared innocent enough. But there does not have to be a reason for stuff to be deleted or edited.  Such things can happen at a whim, at random, like a lightning strike or a drop of bird poop from the air. Second thoughts - could it be related to someone revealing a member's real name?  I mention no names, only offer this as a possible explanation. Zoggy played guitar, jammin' good with Weird and Golly. Lyrics copyright Sausage Music 2008    Report

09/04/2008, 14:23 cassis Joined on 28/12/2007 Manhattan and Glasgow Posts 644 Re: The guide books Ooh - my reply has reappeared now!  Anyway, keeping on topic, does anyone pay for their pic to be in the AA Book (the one based on Gites de France)? Zoggy played guitar, jammin' good with Weird and Golly. Lyrics copyright Sausage Music 2008    Report

09/04/2008, 14:28 Wilko Joined on 23/08/2004 84 Vaucluse Posts 216 Re: The guide books Hi Clair Wen was that then ?? Rgds Wilko    Report

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