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Changes to Healthcare Entitlement, CPAM, CMU and Cartes Vitales
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 22/02/2008, 11:17
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cooperlola
 
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Westland, worry not. Several of the CPAMs on our list have complied since. A couple have even stated that this was after a phone call received this week instructing them to do so. Whether or not this can be linked directly back to the Embassy's having passed the list on to the ministry, or whether it simply is a case of CNAMTS having finally sent out the instructions, we do not know. Certainly, my list is now well out of date as it comprises those whom we knew were not complying during the seven day period in which it was compiled. Also, it relies on feedback sent in from people whose situations may well have changed since. In fact, I think we can probably now put Gueret on the plus side. Please let us know when your attestations come through - I'd be tempted to phone her again and ask her if you can have one asap, myself, just to be sure.
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22/02/2008, 11:25
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westland
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Thanks Cooperlola, will call in again next week and yes will post any other developments. Still holding on to the PHI for the moment.
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17/03/2008, 19:01
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peterman
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My E106 expired in Jan 2008 and my Carte Vital was taken by the CPAM Office. I was advised to get a letter from Newcastle stating that my E106 had expired and that and the UK would no longer cover me. Together with this letter and a form of consent by my partner, who has a valid E121, to piggy back onto her E121. We did this and returned the forms to the CPAM office, together with a copy of my French Tax return. We were told this was satisfactory and would be processed in one to two weeks. As six weeks has passed, we visited the CPAM today (17.03.2008) and were told that I had no cover at present as they still required an E121 dependant form from Newcastle, they had applied for one in February but have had no reply, we were asked to phone Newcastle and request this form. On contacting Newcastle, I was told I could not apply, as they require an E107 request form from the French CMU. We phoned CPAM again and were told until this was sorted I have no cover and was refused a replacement Carte Europeenne d' Assurance Maladie as I am visiting the UK early April. The English helpline have been very helpful, but all the above requirements have to be met according to them. The CPAM office is at Flers (Orne 61), We have been permanent residents since June 2006, also, does not being married to my partner have any bearing on this situation?
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20/03/2008, 11:54
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Ron Avery
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You cannot just piggyback onto another person's E form as we could all do that and pay no CMU or have to find private health care insurance when E forms expire. Unless the relationship is "legal" there is no reason for UK W&P or CPAM to accept a piggybacking.
You will have to legalise your relationship or risk having to take out PHI when your E 106 expires.
Why not post a sensible answer, people will appreciate it more
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20/03/2008, 11:59
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cooperlola
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But I believe Ron, that one does not have to marry to legalise the relationship - is that not so? I think there is a kind of civil pact you can enter into. The EU law makes it quite clear, that marriage is not the basis for granting dependency status. I'll try to find it... back shortly.
EDIT - Here:
In order to maintain the unity of the family in a broader
sense and without prejudice to the prohibition of discrimination
on grounds of nationality, the situation of
those persons who are not included in the definition of
family members under this Directive, and who therefore
do not enjoy an automatic right of entry and residence
in the host Member State, should be examined by the
host Member State on the basis of its own national legislation,
in order to decide whether entry and residence
could be granted to such persons, taking into consideration
their relationship with the Union citizen or any
other circumstances, such as their financial or physical
dependence on the Union citizen.
Thus it appears that it's subject to a review by the authorities here, but the chances are probably good if you can prove a long-term relationship. Otherwise, Ron, the law would discriminate against same sex and unmarried couples.
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20/03/2008, 12:01
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Boiling a frog
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Great idea Ron
Anyone out there with an E121 who is interested in piggybacking me. Would save me a fortune. Would not be for very long just a couple of years .
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