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22/02/2008, 11:17 cooperlola Joined on 05/05/2006 72 - Sarthe - home of les 24 heures du Mans Posts 8,270 Re: CMU Ejections : YOUR HELP IS NEEDED Westland, worry not.  Several of the CPAMs on our list have complied since.  A couple have even stated that this was after a phone call received this week instructing them to do so.  Whether or not this can be linked directly back to the Embassy's having passed the list on to the ministry, or whether it simply is a case of CNAMTS having finally sent out the instructions, we do not know.  Certainly, my list is now well out of date as it comprises those whom we knew were not complying during the seven day period in which it was compiled.  Also, it relies on feedback sent in from people whose situations may well have changed since.  In fact, I think we can probably now put Gueret on the plus side.  Please let us know when your attestations come through - I'd be tempted to phone her again and ask her if you can have one asap, myself, just to be sure. Healthcare Issues Site "I couldn't sleep very well last night. Some noisy b*ggers going around in automobiles kept me awake." Ken Miles    Report

22/02/2008, 11:25 westland Joined on 11/06/2006 Posts 136 Re: CMU Ejections : YOUR HELP IS NEEDED Thanks Cooperlola, will call in again next week and yes will post any other developments.  Still holding on to the PHI for the moment.    Report

26/02/2008, 15:21 cooperlola Joined on 05/05/2006 72 - Sarthe - home of les 24 heures du Mans Posts 8,270 Re: CMU Ejections : YOUR HELP IS NEEDED I am just bumping this up as I'm compiling this week's report to the Embassy.  The list of positive CPAMs has grown a lot in the past week, but is anybody still having problems (apart from me - can't imagine what I've done!)? As before, please provide the location and department number of your CPAM, and details as to your own circumstances (E106/existing CMU subscriber etc).  Thanks.  Hopefully, it is very few now.... Healthcare Issues Site "I couldn't sleep very well last night. Some noisy b*ggers going around in automobiles kept me awake." Ken Miles    Report

17/03/2008, 13:40 cooperlola Joined on 05/05/2006 72 - Sarthe - home of les 24 heures du Mans Posts 8,270 Re: CMU Ejections : YOUR HELP IS NEEDED Bumping this up again prior to my weekly report to the Embassy.  Some people have still been reporting problems in departments 06, 47, 50 and 71.  If anybody has had any POSITIVE or NEGATIVE responses from CPAMs in these depts recently, please pm me. Thanks. Healthcare Issues Site "I couldn't sleep very well last night. Some noisy b*ggers going around in automobiles kept me awake." Ken Miles    Report

17/03/2008, 19:01 peterman Joined on 17/03/2008 Posts 1 Re: CMU Ejections : YOUR HELP IS NEEDED My E106 expired in Jan 2008 and my Carte Vital was taken by the CPAM Office. I was advised to get a letter from Newcastle stating that my E106 had expired and that and the UK would no longer cover me. Together with this letter and a form of consent by my partner, who has a valid E121, to piggy back onto her E121. We did this and returned the forms to the CPAM office, together with a copy of my French Tax return. We were told this was satisfactory and would be processed in one to two weeks. As six weeks has passed, we visited the CPAM today (17.03.2008) and were told that I had no cover at present as they still required an E121 dependant form from Newcastle, they had applied for one in February but have had no reply, we were asked to phone Newcastle and request this form. On contacting Newcastle, I was told I could not apply, as they require an E107 request form from the French CMU. We phoned CPAM again and were told until this was sorted I have no cover and was refused a replacement Carte Europeenne d' Assurance Maladie as I am visiting the UK early April. The English helpline have been very helpful, but all the above requirements have to be met according to them. The CPAM office is at Flers (Orne 61), We have been permanent residents since June 2006, also, does not being married to my partner have any bearing on this situation?    Report

18/03/2008, 10:03 cooperlola Joined on 05/05/2006 72 - Sarthe - home of les 24 heures du Mans Posts 8,270 Re: CMU Ejections : YOUR HELP IS NEEDED Peterman, your situation is odd - as you appear to have done all the right things!  In theory at least, not being married shouldn't affect you, but you may need to be in an official civil partnership here - does anybody out there know?  I'll try to find out in the meantime. However, whatever you do, if you incur any medical expenses in the interim, keep all your bills and feuilles de soin as once the situation is sorted, you should be able to claim in retrospect. Healthcare Issues Site "I couldn't sleep very well last night. Some noisy b*ggers going around in automobiles kept me awake." Ken Miles    Report

20/03/2008, 11:54 Ron Avery Joined on 29/11/2004 Aveyron 12 Posts 3,863 Re: CMU Ejections : YOUR HELP IS NEEDED You cannot just piggyback onto another person's E form as we could all do that and pay no CMU or have to find private health care insurance when E forms expire.  Unless the relationship is "legal" there is no reason for UK W&P or CPAM to accept a piggybacking. You will have to legalise your relationship or risk having to take out PHI when your E 106 expires. All sweetness and light on this part of the Forum.    Report

20/03/2008, 11:59 cooperlola Joined on 05/05/2006 72 - Sarthe - home of les 24 heures du Mans Posts 8,270 Re: CMU Ejections : YOUR HELP IS NEEDED But I believe Ron, that one does not have to marry to legalise the relationship - is that not so?  I think there is a kind of civil pact you can enter into.  The EU law makes it quite clear, that marriage is not the basis for granting dependency status. I'll try to find it... back shortly. EDIT - Here: In order to maintain the unity of the family in a broader sense and without prejudice to the prohibition of discrimination on grounds of nationality, the situation of those persons who are not included in the definition of family members under this Directive, and who therefore do not enjoy an automatic right of entry and residence in the host Member State, should be examined by the host Member State on the basis of its own national legislation, in order to decide whether entry and residence could be granted to such persons, taking into consideration their relationship with the Union citizen or any other circumstances, such as their financial or physical dependence on the Union citizen.   Thus it appears that it's subject to a review by the authorities here, but the chances are probably good if you can prove a long-term relationship.  Otherwise, Ron, the law would discriminate against same sex and unmarried couples. Healthcare Issues Site "I couldn't sleep very well last night. Some noisy b*ggers going around in automobiles kept me awake." Ken Miles    Report

20/03/2008, 12:01 Boiling a frog Joined on 06/09/2004 16 Posts 904 Re: CMU Ejections : YOUR HELP IS NEEDED Great idea Ron Anyone out there with an E121 who is interested in piggybacking me. Would save me a fortune. Would not be for very long just a couple of years .   It's no exaggeration to say that the undecideds could go one way or another George H W Bush 1988    Report

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