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21/08/2007, 18:32 Russethouse Joined on 23/08/2004 Forum Moderator Posts 9,804 Re: Considering a move from Australia to France Wen, you are correct, racist posts are against the Code of Conduct, should you see a racist post you should report it to a moderator not take the person who posted the message to task on open forum.   www.quimperclub.org 99    Report

21/08/2007, 19:49 The Riff-Raff Element Joined on 23/08/2004 South Vendée - The Particularly Nice Bit Posts 1,587 Re: Considering a move from Australia to France  wen wrote: 'Pommie' and 'yankie' as words do not refer to a particular 'race' but nationalities. They do not refer to colour and that is why I found your 'A-O' word offensive, as an Australian. Just because they are terms that refer to nationalities rather than races they are not in any way exempted  from being derogatory or xenophobic. It is the usage of a word that makes it offensive, not the assembly of letters. Jon Doust-e hameh kas doust-e hich-kas neest    Report

21/08/2007, 20:14 woolybanana (ex tag) Joined on 10/06/2007 vendée Posts 526 Re: Considering a move from Australia to France If I wasn't on a warning I would give you both barrels wen. Suffice it to say that the forces of control and censorship do not permit me to say more than 'I disagree with your posts'. Don't try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig    Report

21/08/2007, 22:04 LEO Joined on 15/04/2006 Calvados,14 Posts 981 Re: Considering a move from Australia to France  wen wrote: 'Pommie' and 'yankie' as words do not refer to a particular 'race' but nationalities. They do not refer to colour and that is why I found your 'A-O' word offensive, as an Australian. And who used it...you or her?.  You know darn well that 'A-O' is a racist and derogatory term in Australia, used to describe the indigenous Australians, and if this site was Australian hosted you would not have been allowed to use it. And this site states that 'racist terms' are not tolerated, so why did you use it here?. I assume from your posts that you lived in a rural area in Australia and I know that people from rural areas use the same lingo as you do. Sorry, it's wrong and why did you think it would be acceptable here?. The only reason that 'culture' and 'history' is limited in OZ is because we are a nation that was only settled in 1788, unfortunately most of our 'history' lies within our efforts in fighting and dying for the British Empire. But give us time. We will exist while Mother England continues to sink; and for those of you who have come to France to escape the social and economic problems there you surely must agree otherwise you are hypocrites. I can only assume that, as you deny any existence of 'culture' in Australia your life there was limited to football, the radio, the TV and looking for an alternative route into town and searching for water. Either way, it was good enough to leave your child there while you came here 'for the good life'. That 'signature site' belongs to my other-half' not me. And it does not state 'racist perspectives'.     I would hate to be married to wen and , go home with ten bob short in my wages!   Leo. www.vianormandy.com ( I owe , I owe , so it's off to work I go! )    Report

21/08/2007, 22:15 woolybanana (ex tag) Joined on 10/06/2007 vendée Posts 526 Re: Considering a move from Australia to France Bob? That would be Abbo money then would it? Don't try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig    Report

21/08/2007, 22:25 LEO Joined on 15/04/2006 Calvados,14 Posts 981 Re: Considering a move from Australia to France Aff a nicka! Leo. www.vianormandy.com ( I owe , I owe , so it's off to work I go! )    Report

21/08/2007, 23:52 retread Joined on 21/07/2007 Perigord Vert 24800 Posts 48 Re: Considering a move from Australia to France As a non Australian following this thread with some interest I wonder if the so called 'racist 'comment was not, in fact, a case of forum shorthand. Perhaps, as a relative newcomer to the Australian way of life, he believed, from common usage, that the words used were a slang description of life before the British and Dutch pillaged  the continent. I note that great stress was placed upon the 4000 years of occupation of the content by its aboriginal population but from the same(?) source, after quoting major Australians (Dame Edna, Rolf Harris and a few others if I remember but missing Dame Kirri), then winged on that of course the list would be longer if the countries history spread further back than 1788. And criticising the French Revolution for  excess when removing a tyrannical regime (and installing a republic) while not accepting the genocide of the aboriginal inhabitants by the forebears of the writer decidedly placed the author beyond the pale. The original post was a simple request, a first post, and surely we owe everyone the courtesy of a civil reply, help and understanding. Surely this forum is not the platform for trendy wendies and luney liberals or any other fascist group that tries to belittle well meaning, if occasionally misguided, people.      Report

22/08/2007, 5:58 Daniel5791 Joined on 19/07/2007 Posts 15 Re: Considering a move from Australia to France What did I start here??? In defence of Richard, the term "Abo" like it or not,  is a term that I hear a great many Aussies use when describing the indiginous population. It would seem to me that it was used here as a short hand term and nothing more. I certainly don't detect any malice or racist overtones here. I don't see any difference in people's use of Pom, frog, yank (or seppo) kiwi and the list goes on. I totally get what was said also about our history. I have visited our museums and galleries several times, and to be honest the aboriginal art and culture just doesn't hold much interest for me. Does that make me, Richard or anybody else racist because we would find European art, culture, architecture etc etc more appealing and exciting over Native Austrailan history? If it does then people really need to lighten up.    Report

22/08/2007, 8:28 darnsarf Joined on 19/01/2006 31 (just) Posts 107 Re: Considering a move from Australia to France Retread, not wishing to undermine your calm and well reasoned response, I feel I should point out Dame Kiri Te Kanawa is from New Zealand, not Aus. I always thought it was unwritten forum etiquette that a new poster is welcomed and given a bit of latitude. In this case, he used a word that many find offensive and was flamed. To be honest, I don't like the word and rank it among others I won't state here now but have now fallen from grace, having once been in pretty normal usage. In my book, pretty much any word which describes a group of people according to racial, rather than geographic origin is worth avoiding and I don't really feel it's overly PC to feel that way. Wen's comments were a bit of a rant, covering and mixing all manner of partial fact and opinion. They also contained a nasty tinge of metropolitan snobbery about rural communities, which is about as offensive as rascism. I too, as a Brit, support Aus becoming a republic, in the same way as I wish the UK were. And I'm pleased France is one too. I found offensive the comment " Mother England continues to sink; and for those of you who have come to France to escape the social and economic problems there you surely must agree otherwise you are hypocrites". Excessive reading of the Daily Mail methinks! Welcome to the forum Daniel!    Report

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