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03/05/2007, 16:56
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Will

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03/05/2007, 23:54
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Dick Smith

Joined on 23/08/2004
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I've got most of the yacht varnish off by sanding and scraping - anyone need a litre of the stuff? I've got some spare - just waiting for it to harden before sanding off the last of it. I've had some advice which is to use a couple of coats of sanding sealer and then spray with nitrocellulose (several coats), cut back with extreme wet and dry (wet) and then buff. Not sure if this means with wax, but I'll whack some Turtle over it and polish my lickle heart out. I think I'll swap out all of the fittings to black, for contrast. Then call in a friendly guitar tech.
Then a Candy Apple Red Strat?
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Dick Smith
Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground
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04/05/2007, 11:05
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ali-cat

Joined on 15/12/2005
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Hi all. Alicat's OH here.
Not a kit story but a refinish. When I bought a Japanese Squier Strat in the late 80s it was fire engine red. Very Hank Marvin. Unfortunately Hank isn't my cup of tea and I HATED the colour. Spent several weeks grinding, nitromorsing and sanding the tough polyester finish off until it was down to the bare wood, fine sanded the body and then sprayed it with a few coats of artist's acrylic fixative spray - available from any art shop. Twenty years later the acrylic finish is still there despite the fact that this was my only guitar for ten years or so. Another option if you like to see the wood is an oiled finish - very easy to apply.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e332/Livingstone_Mark/AlfaSquier006.jpg
Sorry about the yacht varnish episode Dick. Unfortunately nitro can also be tricky as it requires a few weeks to cure and tends to be a fragile finish thereafter - easily damaged by contact with chemicals, plastics, rubber etc. Alicat had to makes this fetching denim stand cover for me to protect another one of my toys.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e332/Livingstone_Mark/DSC00003-1.jpg
PS - If anyone fancies revisiting their youth for little outlay but doesn't fancy the kit route - these are apparently the bees knees - even according to vintage Fender owners (I'd quite like one myself but I've run out of wall and floor space).
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/page/shop/flypage/product_id/10477/a/r/e/base
Keep on strumming! ![Big Smile [:D]](/cs/images/emotions/biggrin.gif)
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04/05/2007, 15:05
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Dick Smith

Joined on 23/08/2004
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Hi Ali, Mark.
From what I've read, nitrocellulose is the way to go, as apart from looking so very good it improves the tone - and having seen what the yacht varnish did, I would believe it. It would be like playing an instrument coated in rubber. No way to promote sustain!
Apparently nitrocellulose does harden out (usable in a week, fully hardened in 30 days, totally hardened in a few years) but I've not heard of any problems with it coming in contact with plastics - after all, a lot of guitar fittings are plastic.
For an oiled finish (mellow tone?) I'd have to chemically strip off a couple of layers of sanding sealer, which I don't want to do. I am reserving my opinions on a honey 'burst finish at a later date.
Then the CAR Strat (s)...
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Dick Smith
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04/05/2007, 17:24
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f1steveuk

Joined on 29/03/2007
Belves, Dordogne
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Re: New project Guitar
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At this rate every kit produced will end up in France.
I have heard that quite a few builders rub the sanding sealer off regardless, but they have also said, it is bl@@y hard work! Boreing though it sounds I think I am going the sea foam blue route, or black with a polished ali' pickguard, but I'm sure once I am standing in front of the paint rack I'll see something else and go for that! Number one son heard I was doing mine as a single pick up Esquire, and has already asked for it when finished. YEAH RIGHT, he's had three guitars out of me each time I have finished them.
I have also been told by Paul at Music King, there is a Thinline Tele (semi acoustic version) a 335 semi acoustic and a SG coming soon!
No one doing red white and blue then????!!!![Ick! [+o(]](/cs/images/emotions/sick.gif)
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04/05/2007, 18:51
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Dick Smith

Joined on 23/08/2004
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On a woodworking forum I hang out at there is a term for the collection of many planes and other tools - 'the slope'.
I reckon we're on it...
I've always wanted a Thinline - blonde of course - with black pickguard. And an SG in dark red. And a green Tele.
You're right about the sanding sealer - even worse when there's a coat or two of gloop over it, as I have now. Did your blokes just slap the nitro over bare wood?
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Dick Smith
Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground
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05/05/2007, 7:28
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Dick Smith

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I must recommend the Manchester Guitar Tech. I ordered some nitrocellulose on Thursday and it arrived today.
Whoooh!
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Dick Smith
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05/05/2007, 8:59
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Dick Smith

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Update - I've sprayed 2 coats on the body, and it looks too light and anaemic. Also shows flaws - look like dirty marks, but no idea where they have come from. Have ordered tinted clear lacquer to beef it up a bit. If that doesn't work, honeyburst (but cost of lacquer will have equalled cost of guitar kit!)
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Dick Smith
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