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   15/03/2007, 8:16
Will is not online. Last active: 22/04/2008 12:26:55 Will



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Re: LD LINES AND THEIR 100% FARES INCREASE
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I quite agree with what Dotty says in principle, but it's not that simple.

All the ferry companies have different pricing structures. As far as passenger fares go, LD Lines, or rather its UK handling/booking agent (incidentally the same people who are starting a France-Channel islands ferry service themselves under the HD Ferries name) started off with a simpler, but still expensive, version of the P&O fares which previously operated on the same route. This was obviously not sustainable because people could get a far better service for similar money on competing routes. So LD Lines set its own 'special offer' fares to get bums on seats, and built up a following, particularly among those who frequently complain about the competition being too dear. This was a learning curve for LD Lines, because although it is a big shipping company, and operates freight ferries jointly to Italy, this was its first venture into passenger carrying.

LD Lines pricing has evolved into a sort of Ryanair type model, where if you are a normal couple or family group travelling with a normal car, staying away for one or two weeks, and book early, you can get cheap fares. Book late, take a van, even travel on foot, and it can be a different story.

Yes, I have travelled on LD Lines several times. But because I travel very regularly and tend to book within about 10 days or less of my travelling dates (or even on the day of travel) for short-duration trips, often as a foot passenger, I invariably find I can get a better deal overall with Brittany Ferries. Particularly as the latter offers a far greater choice of times and routes.

That's not to decry LD Lines, it is a perfectly good service, run competently and safely. I don't personally consider that the ship is particularly comfortable or well-arranged, or that the facilities and catering are as good as most (not all) of the Brittany Ferries ships. That's just my view, others think differently and I respect their opinions.

From running one ship on one route, LD Lines is now operating three vessels on three routes, between four ports. This is quite an expansion, and I can understand why there has been some consolidation of fares etc. There certainly were some anomalies which have been sorted out. I will definitely be trying the new Newhaven-Le Havre route soon.

One big difference between Ryanair and LD Lines is the attitude of senior management. LD Lines' CEO, Pierre Gehanne, is a regular user of the Anglo Info Normandy forum, and a lot of what the company has done on its original passenger route has been based on discussion there with the users. Mr Gehanne is currently coming in for some stick over pricing on the Newhaven-Dieppe service.

So I suggest that if any user has comments about LD Lines they should be directed to the actual company (not the ship or port staff, many of whom are contractors from other companies), and they will certainly be listened to.


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   15/03/2007, 8:41
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 Brilec wrote:

And try to get the police interested if you suffer a burglary in the UK, then compare the response to that when you inadvertantly stray 3mph over a 30 limit in your local high street at 3.00am. (Also SD, try riding a bike in North Wales at any time of the day).



I agree with Brilec on this one.  My daughter is currently a witness in a trial which should see two of the defendents sent to prison (one of these is a known drug dealer and has a long history of violence including previous convictions for arson).  As a consequence of her evidence, we have been the subject of prolonged and aggressive witness intimidation over the last 12 months ranging from having 10 double glazed units smashed with rocks and house bricks at 2.00am in the morning (then a further 3 similar attacks first to our own property and then, after we had CCTV installed, to our neighbours homes), black edged calling cards telling us that our home will be torched, phone calls telling us that our two (younger) boys will have their throats cut.  Saturday alone we had eight threatening calls between the hours of midnight and 4 am (and, yes, we have changed the number - several times, and, no, the witness protection scheme is a joke). 

The police response to this - they took 45 minutes to respond to a 999 call, told us we are too far off the main route to have a regular police patrol, we have had officers sit on our sofa and tell us that it is not the responsibility of the police to protect the public (whatever happened to the promise they make 'to serve and protect').  On one occassion it took three weeks and four cancelled appointments to take a simple statement.  They won't trace calls because, I quote, it's too expensive - so we have had to do that ourselves.  Having said all of that, the fault is predominantly lack of funding - many times over the last year 'control' haven't been able to get anyone out to us because there have been only a couple of officers on duty and there have been (for example) several pub brawls, an RTA and a burglary all happening simultaneously.

Wait until you *really* need the police and then see how much assistance you get....

France is heaven for us - absolute heaven

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   26/04/2007, 18:48
Danglar is not online. Last active: 04/07/2008 20:08:09 Danglar

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Well , it looks like BF are waging a competition with LD Lines !!!

Look at BF special prices on their website from now till the end of the year: only slightly dear than LD's.  Good on you BF! Will LD now respond ?

I have paid £ 134 for car+2 for the May Bank Holiday and will have to travel by night to Le Havre sleeping rather uncomfortably. I I had noticed before I'd jumped...ship and gone with BF without a second thought!   LD lines ...pah! 

 


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   27/04/2007, 12:55
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I have just done a check for the same dates that I will be crossing with LD Lines, and the price is £440.  This for a reclining seat rather than a cabin.  The same price for LD Lines, with a cabin one way, is £192.00.  Both journeys include the cost of a pet.

I know which I prefer.


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