|
|
Gite Owners
Topic has 56 replies.
  
|
|
Sort Posts:
|
|
|
|
 18/11/2006, 19:10
|
The Riff-Raff Element
Joined on 23/08/2004
South Vendée - The Particularly Nice Bit
Posts 1,642
|
|
|
 Chris Head wrote: | | I've read the whole lot and quite honestly, if
it were me they'd get one warning and a few minutes to pack up and
leave and if not they'd be out a few minutes afterwards and sod the
consequences. |
|
Well, I'm generally a very law abiding and well behaved chap (father of
three, chef d'entreprise, tax payer, pillar of the village, deeply
fluffy, kind to small animals, etc) but I take your point. I'm all for
the rights of tennents and even (under certain circumstances) of
squatters, but smug, grinning little scrotebags who take the p**s like
this...well, I may have difficulty in containing my ire. That's all I'd
say.
Jon
Doust-e hameh kas doust-e hich-kas neest
|
|
|
|
|
Report
|
|
|
|
|
19/11/2006, 7:29
|
Lori
Joined on 23/08/2004
Vaucluse (84)
Posts 1,396
|
|
|
|
I have to agree with both Chris and Jon on this.
|
|
|
|
|
Report
|
|
|
|
|
20/11/2006, 8:56
|
Ariege Auberge
Joined on 28/04/2005
Posts 12
|
|
|
|
|
An interesting post but I'm sure that I read in the French version of 'Which' magazine that gite tenants must have a permanent address and that the Winter eviction law therefore does not apply as the law can only be invoked if the tenants have nowhere else to go.
This makes me think that a gite contract (amended for any prolonged stays up to a max of 3 months) plus proof of a permanent residence is protection enough. With French tenants, the proof of residence is printed on their deposit cheque. With British tenants, you could always ask for their address details - they have then confirmed that they have another address and so you are then protected.
Maybe this will help to abate some of the fear that the scare-stories seem to have provoked.
|
|
|
|
|
Report
|
|
|
|
|
20/11/2006, 9:06
|
Fumanzoku
 
Joined on 23/08/2004
Posts 151
|
|
|
|
I got an enquiry today from someone wanting to rent for the six, now five 'winter' months, will take every precaution in light of what's been said.
|
|
|
|
|
Report
|
|
|
|
|
20/11/2006, 9:17
|
The Riff-Raff Element
Joined on 23/08/2004
South Vendée - The Particularly Nice Bit
Posts 1,642
|
|
|
|
We had some friends around last night for dinner (first hangover for
six months....). I brought up the original two weeks gite letting
becoming a winter squat as one of them works in the lettings business.
Appearantly, squats obtained by deception are not treated the same as
those obtained by unforced entry. What is meant by this is that if
someone signs an agreement to take a let for, say, two weeks then
refuses to leave at the end and claim squatters rights, they have
obtained entry by deception. Although this does not necessarily mean
that you can get them out in winter any more easily, it does take the
matter from being civil to being criminal. This can make life for the
squatters much more interesting.
Just a thought.
Jon
Doust-e hameh kas doust-e hich-kas neest
|
|
|
|
|
Report
|
|
|
|
|
20/11/2006, 10:56
|
nimportequoi
Joined on 15/11/2005
Posts 514
|
|
|
|
| Jon wrote: | This can make life for the
squatters much more interesting.
|
|
Can you expand on the interesting? Do the owners then have a right to cutting of the electricity in the gite/ changing the locks/ if all this fails sending a few hunter friends around with their guns?
PS The family who arrived chez moi on Saturday are very nice and don't fall into this category (so far)
|
|
|
|
|
Report
|
|
|
|
|
21/11/2006, 20:11
|
Josephine79
Joined on 07/03/2005
Posts 19
|
|
|
|
Dear Ariege,
we have tenants who have been with us for twelve months and the address on their cheques is still that of the place they came to before us, so this should NEVER be taken as being a proof of address. Most commonly in France proof of residence is a utilities bill less than 3 months old.
You need to check and check again against things they can't fake; the name matching a number in the phone book, (for example, for English or French tenants) - if in doubt ring the number. If they say they only have mobiles ring the mairie of the place they come from - or their next door neighbours (can be found in pages blanches by putting street name without number and leaving "name" blank).
The whole point is that these people will not tell the truth. In the case I personally experienced they came for "a fortnight" in September and were still there without paying rent come March.
The whole point of the "scare story" is to make property owners more wary: I've had another e-mail tonight telling me a similar story - the people in question have debts and the bailiffs are fed up of chasing them.
I think it's natural to take people at face value, unfortunately you cannot afford to do this when it comes to letting property.
Jo
|
|
|
|
|
Report
|
|
|
|
|
21/11/2006, 20:14
|
Josephine79
Joined on 07/03/2005
Posts 19
|
|
|
|
Sorry but if you do any of this you will fall foul of the law which could well end up costing you more.
Bear in mind that the people we are talking about have no assets and nothing to lose. If you give them cause to sue you they will!
|
|
|
|
|
Report
|
|
|
|
|
France Forum » Owning/Running ... » Gite Owners » Re: Dodgy tenants
|
|
|
|