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18/05/2008, 13:28 Puzzled Joined on 05/10/2006 Posts 580 Re: Please help.......insurance quandry I would try and get all this great information to the police station asap, in the hope that thay can resolve this situation without Mr Opas having to spend another night in the cells. If they choose to ignore this information and it later is proven to be correct , I think Mr Opas will have solid grounds for a complaint, making a mistake is one thing - refusing to rectify it is another. If you haven't got a fax you can subscribe to www.popfax.com  for free for a temporary period and send faxes via your computer direct to the police station.    Report

18/05/2008, 13:29 Boiling a frog Joined on 06/09/2004 Charente 16 Posts 653 Re: Please help.......insurance quandry And here is advice about bringing foreign registered car to the UK.   Visitors to the UK   If you are coming to live permanently in the UK you need to re-register your vehicle onto UK plates immediately.   You should contact the DVLA for advice as to how to do this at www.dvla.gov.uk or the NIVLCO at www.dvlni.gov.uk if you live in Northern Ireland.   A vehicle with UK plates must have insurance according to UK Law, which means it must be insured with an authorized insurer and one who is a member of MIB.   To see if the insurer is a member of MIB please check the Members’ section of this website.   If you are a short- term visitor to the UK (for example on holiday) you can use your vehicle for a limited time before you need to re-register onto UK plates. If you are staying longer you must re-register the vehicle.  The DVLA have advised the legal position as follows:   A foreign registered vehicle can be used in this country for up to six months in a twelve month period providing it complies with the registration and licensing requirements of its home country.   Any foreign registered vehicle used in this country for more than six months in any twelve has to be registered and licensed in the normal way. In addition, where the keeper of the vehicle becomes resident in this country, the vehicle must immediately be registered and licensed here.   It is the responsibility of the driver to prove how long a vehicle has been in the UK.   In the event that you are stopped by the Police, or any other enforcement agency, you may be asked to provide proof of port of entry or any other evidence confirming when the vehicle arrived in the UK.   There are severe penalties if the law is not complied with and the Police have powers to seize and crush any vehicle they believe to be uninsured.   I think the problem is that the police believe that your husband,by working in the UK has become a resident in the UK and therefore should have reregistered his vehicle in the UK immediately. He has probably been caught by the clampdown on foreign registered vehicles used by Polish and others who are working in the UK but continue to drive their foreign registered vehicles.I can only suggest that you or the solicitor contacts the DVLA tomorrow and ask their opinion in these circumstances .         Boiling a frog    Report

18/05/2008, 13:32 cooperlola Joined on 05/05/2006 72 - Sarthe - home of les 24 heures du Mans Posts 6,446 Re: Please help.......insurance quandry This, from the above, is probably relevant: "It is the responsibility of the driver to prove how long a vehicle has been in the UK." You might want to gather as much evidence of travel times to the UK, while you're twidding your thumbs and having kittens!  Bookings on ferries over the last year, etc. Healthcare Issues Site    Report

18/05/2008, 13:45 BJSLIV Joined on 23/08/2004 Posts 2,503 Re: Please help.......insurance quandry Mr O hasn't by any chance been in the UK for more than half of the last year and accidentally breached the six month provision?    Report

18/05/2008, 13:54 Georgina Joined on 23/08/2004 29 Posts 619 Re: Please help.......insurance quandry I know this probably is not helping but there has been an outcry in Britain about the number of foreign vehicles on the roads getting away with allsorts, hence why the police, unless it is immediately obvious, will not let anyone go without them proving themselves totally or being available at a later date for questioning.  I think if they do not readily find all this information, they are having a bit of a spate and if you cannot prove your address have the right to take you in.  I know from several friends in the UK that it has got out of hand recently with all the dodgers and they are clamping down on the tax big time.  I am not saying that you are dodging at all but it would explain their behaviour.  I also noticed on a recent visit how few old bangers were on the roads lately, which was immediately apparent.  Anyone who is sent on a Sunday from a solicitors, even if they are not experienced in European law, should be able to access the correct informationto help your case through their firm. Georgina    Report

18/05/2008, 14:04 Patf Joined on 23/08/2004 SW Gers Posts 2,335 Re: Please help.......insurance quandry Mrs. O. - what a predicament, and very difficult for you to sort out at a distance. As B a F said, the problem seems to be that he was working in the UK. You said yourself in your first post, they told him that this is what invalidated his insurance. Would it be possible to obtain a statement from his employer in the UK saying how long he has worked for them, and it was only temporary work?    Report

18/05/2008, 14:42 powerdesal Joined on 07/01/2006 Fujeirah, U.A.E Posts 2,241 Re: Please help.......insurance quandry Access to a fax machine. This may not be helpful but... if you are running XP and have a fax modem built in (normal computer , ie (say) 56k US Robotics or similar) then you should be able to fax from your computer. It may be worth checking your system, if nothing else it will help take your mind off the situation in a small way. best wishes and good luck. Steve Fujeirah Emirate, U.A.E + 50 (in France) ...........................................................................    Report

18/05/2008, 14:43 opas Joined on 23/08/2004 catalonia, top of the hill en route to the Chateau Posts 2,199 Re: Please help.......insurance quandry Oh all these questions to be thought about. He left here on tuesday 22 April to catch a ferry on Wednesday, it was orriginally booked for a different car, which sprung a leak in the water pump about a week before departure. No problem with the ferry and he has probably got the documentation for that and I certainly have it on the email system, and bank receipt. No return ferry booked as he wasn`t too sure as to how the work would pan out, I was to be booking him a ferry for Friday as things were going OK, but this last job must have not been up to scratch as he told me on the phone that he was going to Dover and was to suprise us all by being here for sometime today! He can provide pay slips for the past 4/5 years showing that he does this regular and we have always been carefull with the 30 day rule for insurance. I have looked at al those websites and am now bamboozled, that is what I have been doing since about 7.15 this morning, I am a little wary of contacting the centre again as I must have rung 4 times for various reasons. I am also at the momment a little dubious about faxing any info to them , I do not want Mr O to be malteated in any way!  but If someone can use their brains for me and suggest which piece of info they should look at, I would gladly take up the offer of the poster who said they would do it on my behalf. I really am stuck untill tomorow morning and by the time I get through to anyone he will already be in court  09.30 i beleive.   oh one last point, he is on a French driving licence , we both have been for about 4 years..........how will that work out?    Report

18/05/2008, 15:07 Ron Avery Joined on 29/11/2004 Aveyron 12 Posts 3,396 Re: Please help.......insurance quandry  Puzzled wrote: A Sunday solicitor will probably be just a solicitor's runner with little legal experience and even less knowledge of EU law.  Best chance of finding answers today is probably going to come from this forum.  What a load of ill informed tosh, a duty solicitor is a duty solicitor is a duty solicitor, and as for this Forum being the answer to outcast's problems, well as they say "you are having a laugh mate".  "Let me go because some bloke in France on French Forum said you can't keep me locked up It might escaped some people's attention and I appreciate that some, though not all, are trying to help,  that you don't get arrested and kept in cells for driving whilst uninsured nor is it an EU law offence.  He has been arrested for an offence under UK law which a UK policeman and/or custody sergeant are probably quite well informed over and the duty solicitor would be a darn sight better inforned about UK law than any of the barrack lawyers on this Forum.  You sure old outcast was not his charming old self to the boys in blue??? Why not post a sensible answer, people will appreciate it more    Report

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