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08/05/2008, 13:42 Boiling a frog Joined on 06/09/2004 Charente 16 Posts 617 Re: Suitable insurance for France and UK It is an EU directive Relevant part TITLE IV TEMPORARY USE OF A VEHICLE Article 5 General conditions under which tax is not payable when a vehicle is used temporarily in a Member State other than that of registration 1. The provisions of Article 1(2) shall apply in respect of a motor vehicle used temporarily in a Member State, other than the Member State in which it is registered, for a period, continuous or otherwise, of not more than six months in any 12 months, provided that: (a) the person using the vehicle has his normal residence in a Member State other than the Member State of temporary use; (b) the vehicle is only the subject of private use;   So to clarify You are allowed to use a car for 6 months in a 12 month period in a country other that the country where one has their normal residence..So you can take your French  car anywhere in the EU except the UK.                   Boiling a frog    Report

08/05/2008, 13:59 Jacqui Too Joined on 23/08/2004 Shropshire / Dordogne 24 Posts 682 Re: Suitable insurance for France and UK  Boiling a frog wrote: It is an EU directive Relevant part TITLE IV TEMPORARY USE OF A VEHICLE Article 5 General conditions under which tax is not payable when a vehicle is used temporarily in a Member State other than that of registration 1. The provisions of Article 1(2) shall apply in respect of a motor vehicle used temporarily in a Member State, other than the Member State in which it is registered, for a period, continuous or otherwise, of not more than six months in any 12 months, provided that: (a) the person using the vehicle has his normal residence in a Member State other than the Member State of temporary use; (b) the vehicle is only the subject of private use;   So to clarify You are allowed to use a car for 6 months in a 12 month period in a country other that the country where one has their normal residence..So you can take your French  car anywhere in the EU except the UK. Thank you for that BAF but I am still confused/stupid but is that info related to 'tax' and without knowing what Article 1(2) I'm not sure it relates to what I would like to do(possible) My possible scenario: I have a holiday home in France and a car fully reg in France. I decide to fly out to my holiday home for two months, I then decide I wish to return to the UK for 1 week using the car, are you saying I can't take it. Jackie    Report

08/05/2008, 14:31 Boiling a frog Joined on 06/09/2004 Charente 16 Posts 617 Re: Suitable insurance for France and UK Look up EU directive 83/182/eec. Basically this directive outlines what tax is payable/not payable when a car is imported into another country or where a car is temporaraly imported into another EU country. The part of the directive which I refered to previously ie that you are not allowed to use a vehicle registered in another member state in your country of normal residence is designed to prevent people registering a vehicle in a state with low taxation, or in the case of France no road taxation,and then using it in the country of residence ie the UK. There are various exemptions for cross border workers,car hire firms etc. The likelyhood of being pulled up for it is something entirely different           Boiling a frog    Report

08/05/2008, 14:54 ErnieY Joined on 05/12/2006 Nr Prayssac (Lot) Posts 3,740 Re: Suitable insurance for France and UK Talk of tax is rether confusing the issue (as if we need need more of that ) but what BAF says is fundamentally correct so no, as a UK resident you cannot legitimately take your French car to UK although, as I mentioned earlier, Noel Edmunds doesn't seem to be overly concerned with this but I suppose, unlike us mere mortals, he's got enough dough to buy his way out of just about any trouble It's the same in France, as a French resident you are not permitted to drive a foreign car so strictly speaking you cannot borrow a UK regged car belonging to a visiting friend for instance.  Boiling a frog wrote: The likelyhood of being pulled up for it is something entirely different Agreed and a chance you may choose to take, but when metal meets metal and the questions start........................ My doctor said one drink per day, I can live with that !    Report

08/05/2008, 15:03 Boiling a frog Joined on 06/09/2004 Charente 16 Posts 617 Re: Suitable insurance for France and UK  ErnieY wrote: Talk of tax is rether confusing the issue (as if we need need more of that ) but what BAF says is fundamentally correct so no, as a UK resident you cannot legitimately take your French car to UK although, as I mentioned earlier, Noel Edmunds doesn't seem to be overly concerned with this but I suppose, unlike us mere mortals, he's got enough dough to buy his way out of just about any trouble It's the same in France, as a French resident you are not permitted to drive a foreign car so strictly speaking you cannot borrow a UK regged car belonging to a visiting friend for instance.  Boiling a frog wrote: The likelyhood of being pulled up for it is something entirely different Agreed and a chance you may choose to take, but when metal meets metal and the questions start........................ Perhaps Noel is a French resident Re driving  UK car in France You can drive it as long as the owner of the vehicle is with you         Boiling a frog    Report

08/05/2008, 15:23 Will Joined on 22/09/2004 Sussex & 50 (Mortainais) Posts 4,931 Re: Suitable insurance for France and UK Just to go back a few steps to correct something...  Tony F Dordogne wrote: ...French and UK law says if the car is in France for more than 6 months, it should be SORNd and registered in France.  Definitely not - DVLA should be notified, using the section of the registration certificate provided for this purpose (V5C/4), that the vehicle has been exported - this is totally different from SORN. From the official UK website on SORN: "The vehicle must remain in Great Britain." (link to page here ) Will intentionally blank signature http://www.vienormande.com    Report

08/05/2008, 16:41 Tony F Dordogne Joined on 10/04/2005 Small village in the Dordogne, near St Cyprien Posts 1,494 Re: Suitable insurance for France and UK Just so Will Tony F Dordogne (24) Huguenot Trails    Report

08/05/2008, 17:06 ErnieY Joined on 05/12/2006 Nr Prayssac (Lot) Posts 3,740 Re: Suitable insurance for France and UK I did pick this up at the time in my post @ 09:00  ErnieY wrote: Tony: I'm surprised you suggest SORNing as it is clearly not appropriate in this case, if the car is to be registered in France it must be exported My doctor said one drink per day, I can live with that !    Report

08/05/2008, 17:14 Will Joined on 22/09/2004 Sussex & 50 (Mortainais) Posts 4,931 Re: Suitable insurance for France and UK Thanks - I missed that bit, Ernie Glad we are in agreement. Will intentionally blank signature http://www.vienormande.com    Report

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