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08/05/2008, 21:31 Christine Animal Joined on 14/05/2005 Deux-Sèvres Posts 4,112 Re: Ragondin With pleasure !     animalaidsaintaubin.monsite.orange.fr/ Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful    Report

08/05/2008, 21:32 Dick Smith Joined on 23/08/2004 Surrey and Manche (Pays Mortainais) Posts 8,731 Re: Ragondin I imagine you would. I answer back... Regards Dick Smith Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground    Report

08/05/2008, 22:02 Lilly Joined on 23/08/2004 Dordogne Posts 77 Re: Ragondin Sorry to ask but what exactly do these creatures do that is so unacceptable and is the destruction to a river bank any worse than Noddy boats with their wake, is it not possable to trap them both and relocate them down stream?? I'm a sucker for a nice photo!!   Lilly "Live and let live wasn't just a movie"      Report

08/05/2008, 22:12 Dick Smith Joined on 23/08/2004 Surrey and Manche (Pays Mortainais) Posts 8,731 Re: Ragondin http://www.francethisway.com/wildlife/ragondin.php http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coypu Regards Dick Smith Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground    Report

08/05/2008, 22:29 Simon Joined on 06/12/2007 Inverness-shire and Cher(18) Posts 16 Re: Ragondin In my area, ragondins have been protected against hunting or poisoning for the last few years.    Report

08/05/2008, 23:06 chris pp Joined on 30/08/2005 Vienne '86' Posts 1,679 Re: Ragondin I suppose I'll have to put the record straight once again. Ragondin / Coypu are an introduced species that do an immense amount of damage which affects other native species and also the natural filtration system whereby rainwater etc drains into rivers and lakes. The primary problem isn't so much the tunnels as the destruction of aquatic and bank side vegetation which puts many species at risk, including the Large copper butterfly which I have recently written about. It is permitted to trap them anywhere in France and at any time of year without authorization and without notifying you Mairie. I have nothing against them as creatures, they are all the same to me, (that includes humans), but they are in the wrong place and need to be controlled, if not eradicated, in France in a swift, humane and compassionate manner. Chris http://www.planetepassion.com Association Planete Passion - French Wildlife in the English Language    Report

09/05/2008, 4:12 SaligoBay Joined on 23/08/2004 uncharted outer reaches of Montpellier Agglo Posts 2,951 Re: Ragondin  Frenchie wrote: I know they are a menace to river banks and lakes, but I can't help thinking they were introduced in France by men .............................................................................   Men make mistakes......... or hadn't you noticed?    One may tolerate a world of demons for the sake of an angel.    Report

09/05/2008, 6:53 cassis Joined on 28/12/2007 Manhattan and Glasgow Posts 309 Re: Ragondin Leaving them alone is not an option - a byelaw requires the ragondin traps to be set if they are seen on your property because of the damage they cause to the many local étangs when left to breed uncontrolled.  They eventually undermine the dykes that retain the étang waters and drain the lake, as happened to someone from another area who contacted me last year to ask if I knew anyone who could rebuild their étang, which had disappeared overnight.  Somebody suggested simply moving them downstream.  Brilliant idea.  Why didn't I think of that. Read this: http://etangs.ifrance.com/ragondin.htm Zoggy played guitar, jammin' good with Weird and Golly. Lyrics copyright Sausage Music 2008    Report

09/05/2008, 7:08 Frenchie Joined on 31/05/2007 2 Sèvres,79 Posts 3,557 Re: Ragondin  SaligoBay wrote:  Frenchie wrote: I know they are a menace to river banks and lakes, but I can't help thinking they were introduced in France by men .............................................................................   Men make mistakes......... or hadn't you noticed?    All I notice is that once again man is responsible for what happens to him........ And ragondins now have to be exterminated.. They were not part of the wildlife in France. Some silly people introduced them here, and now we are quarelling about the most humane way to eradicate them.......... Here in deux sèvres, I ve seen poisoned carrots left on the riverbanks by the authorities, a few years back, in the Marais Poitevin, now I don't know how they eradicate them, I'll ask a friend who lives there, where there are so many.     Happy    Report

09/05/2008, 7:45 cassis Joined on 28/12/2007 Manhattan and Glasgow Posts 309 Re: Ragondin I'd be very interested to know anything useful you can find out, Frenchie. Just to recap, the ragondin catcher put the trap down a fortnight ago, told me to check it daily and, if one was caught, to strike it through the bars with a metal spike to kill it.  I thought no more about this for a fortnight as daily checks revealed nothing in the trap.  I moved it to a new position by the stream the day before yesterday and woke to find a raggy in the trap yesterday morning.  Now faced with the practicality of killing what turned out to be a largish, leaping, agile beastie in a large cage, the impracticality of what had been proposed by the catcher struck me with some force.  I remembered that someone else had suggested that their neighbour simply drowned them in the cage.  Not sure about this option either, I posted on the forum - the picture was a mistake, as it doesn't show the huge orange-yellow front teeth and huge claws to best effect.  Thereafter no better suggestion was proposed than the drowning method.  So drowning it was.  Why anyone should think there was any pleasure to be had in killing the creature, by whatever method, is beyond me. Personally, I have no blood lust and used to be squeamish about emptying mousetraps until I came to live in the countryside. Zoggy played guitar, jammin' good with Weird and Golly. Lyrics copyright Sausage Music 2008    Report

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