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03/05/2007, 16:56 Will Joined on 22/09/2004 Sussex & 50 (Mortainais) Posts 5,107 Re: New project Guitar Perspex guitar? They have them at one of our local music shops http://www.hobgoblin.com/local/bigpic.php?ID=GR5524A. There was also the Ampeg/Dan Armstrong solid acrylic guitar from the 70s, http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?storyCode=4364, said to have the 'densest' sound ever. Will intentionally blank signature http://www.vienormande.com    Report

03/05/2007, 23:54 Dick Smith Joined on 23/08/2004 Surrey and Manche (Pays Mortainais) Posts 8,915 Re: New project Guitar I've got most of the yacht varnish off by sanding and scraping - anyone need a litre of the stuff? I've got some spare - just waiting for it to harden before sanding off the last of it. I've had some advice which is to use a couple of coats of sanding sealer and then spray with nitrocellulose (several coats), cut back with extreme wet and dry (wet) and then buff. Not sure if this means with wax, but I'll whack some Turtle over it and polish my lickle heart out. I think I'll swap out all of the fittings to black, for contrast. Then call in a friendly guitar tech. Then a Candy Apple Red Strat? Regards Dick Smith Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground    Report

04/05/2007, 11:05 ali-cat Joined on 15/12/2005 Charente Maritime Posts 1,116 Re: New project Guitar Hi all.  Alicat's OH here. Not a kit story but a refinish.  When I bought a Japanese Squier Strat in the late 80s it was fire engine red.  Very Hank Marvin.  Unfortunately Hank isn't my cup of tea and I HATED the colour.  Spent several weeks grinding,  nitromorsing and sanding the tough polyester finish off until it was down to the bare wood,  fine sanded the body and then sprayed it with a few coats of artist's acrylic fixative spray - available from any art shop.  Twenty years later the acrylic finish is still there despite the fact that this was my only guitar for ten years or so.  Another option if you like to see the wood is an oiled finish - very easy to apply. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e332/Livingstone_Mark/AlfaSquier006.jpg Sorry about the yacht varnish episode Dick.  Unfortunately nitro can also be tricky as it requires a few weeks to cure and tends to be a fragile finish thereafter - easily damaged by contact with chemicals, plastics, rubber etc. Alicat had to makes this fetching denim stand cover for me to protect another one of my toys. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e332/Livingstone_Mark/DSC00003-1.jpg PS - If anyone fancies revisiting their youth for little outlay but doesn't fancy the kit route - these are apparently the bees knees - even according to vintage Fender owners (I'd quite like one myself but I've run out of wall and floor space). http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/page/shop/flypage/product_id/10477/a/r/e/base Keep on strumming! Mr Cat.         Many years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never forgotten this.    Report

04/05/2007, 15:05 Dick Smith Joined on 23/08/2004 Surrey and Manche (Pays Mortainais) Posts 8,915 Re: New project Guitar Hi Ali, Mark. From what I've read, nitrocellulose is the way to go, as apart from looking so very good it improves the tone - and having seen what the yacht varnish did, I would believe it. It would be like playing an instrument coated in rubber. No way to promote sustain! Apparently nitrocellulose does harden out (usable in a week, fully hardened in 30 days, totally hardened in a few years) but I've not heard of any problems with it coming in contact with plastics - after all, a lot of guitar fittings are plastic. For an oiled finish (mellow tone?) I'd have to chemically strip off a couple of layers of sanding sealer, which I don't want to do. I am reserving my opinions on a honey 'burst finish at a later date. Then the CAR Strat (s)... Regards Dick Smith Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground    Report

04/05/2007, 17:24 f1steveuk Joined on 29/03/2007 Belves, Dordogne and Sussex Posts 304 Re: New project Guitar At this rate every kit produced will end up in France. I have heard that quite a few builders rub the sanding sealer off regardless, but they have also said, it is bl@@y hard work! Boreing though it sounds I think I am going the sea foam blue route, or black with a polished ali' pickguard, but I'm sure once I am standing in front of the paint rack I'll see something else and go for that! Number one son heard I was doing mine as a single pick up Esquire, and has already asked for it when finished. YEAH RIGHT, he's had three guitars out of me each time I have finished them. I have also been told by Paul at Music King, there is a Thinline Tele (semi acoustic version) a 335 semi acoustic and  a SG coming soon! No one doing red white and blue then????!!! "Some scoundrel has taken the cork for my lunch" W.C Fields    Report

04/05/2007, 18:51 Dick Smith Joined on 23/08/2004 Surrey and Manche (Pays Mortainais) Posts 8,915 Re: New project Guitar On a woodworking forum I hang out at there is a term for the collection of many planes and other tools - 'the slope'. I reckon we're on it... I've always wanted a Thinline - blonde of course - with black pickguard.  And an SG in dark red. And a green Tele. You're right about the sanding sealer - even worse when there's a coat or two of gloop over it, as I have now. Did your blokes just slap the nitro over bare wood? Regards Dick Smith Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground    Report

04/05/2007, 20:09 Will Joined on 22/09/2004 Sussex & 50 (Mortainais) Posts 5,107 Re: New project Guitar I ordered my PB today. But it will be a while before I fnish it, it's more a medium-to-long term job. I fancy fitting a Seymour Duncan pickup and a decent bridge like a Badass, and maybe better tuners too (will have to see what those supplied are like). Those new ones sound very tempting. I always liked the look of the hollow bodied Teles, particularly in white. The 335 sounds like a very interesting project, particularly if it is solid wood rather than laminated. An SG would be a must. My first electric 6-string was an Avon SG - I noticed that the guy behind the site recommended by Steve (lots of useful info*) said he started with an Avon LP. My old Avon SG played beautifully, but was let down by a dead-sounding plywood body (not a lot you can do with that) and rubbish electrics. The SG, with a reasonable solid wood body and decent pickups, would be a great follow-up to the PB. My old one was dark red (aren't they all?) but I am thinking in terms of a walnut-type lacquer. *the info includes quite a lot about applying nitro-cellulose. Will intentionally blank signature http://www.vienormande.com    Report

05/05/2007, 7:28 Dick Smith Joined on 23/08/2004 Surrey and Manche (Pays Mortainais) Posts 8,915 Re: New project Guitar I must recommend the Manchester Guitar Tech. I ordered some nitrocellulose on Thursday and it arrived today. Whoooh! Regards Dick Smith Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground    Report

05/05/2007, 8:59 Dick Smith Joined on 23/08/2004 Surrey and Manche (Pays Mortainais) Posts 8,915 Re: New project Guitar Update - I've sprayed 2 coats on the body, and it looks too light and anaemic. Also shows flaws - look like dirty marks, but no idea where they have come from. Have ordered tinted clear lacquer to beef it up a bit. If that doesn't work, honeyburst (but cost of lacquer will have equalled cost of guitar kit!) Regards Dick Smith Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground    Report

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