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05/05/2008, 7:27 Compo Joined on 23/08/2004 Posts 731 Re: Should the UK now bar non-British EU residents from free NHS treatment? Yes, I agree with Gay, you can see problems with any system if you really want to. And that for me is the whole issue. The same rules should apply to everybody throughout each member state of the European Union. Whilst I do not necessarily agree with the original post of this thread, I can understand why it has been said. But I guess if absolutely exact rules applied to everything and every country in Europe, it would mean the end of the Pound with the UK joining the Eurozone - now that's a good idea...    Report

05/05/2008, 7:56 NormanH Joined on 10/04/2008 Posts 179 Re: Should the UK now bar non-British EU residents from free NHS treatment? That's rather what I said in my posting on page 2 "what should happen is that the whole of Europe adopt a similar system."    Report

05/05/2008, 8:13 Compo Joined on 23/08/2004 Posts 731 Re: Should the UK now bar non-British EU residents from free NHS treatment? Exactly Norman. I am endorsing what you said. Sorry, I should have made a reference to that as well...    Report

05/05/2008, 8:30 oscar Joined on 28/02/2008 Posts 66 Re: Should the UK now bar non-British EU residents from free NHS treatment?  Rob Roy wrote: Rich1972 wrote: "I'm completely in support of the 'free at the point of use' ideology"   .........."As I said in my first post, I was planning on having a year off to fix my house up before working (I haven't got two-years NI contributions as I've been studying and have only worked for the last 12 months so I'll have to get full cover) but no problems are insurmountable!" You also stated in the other post that you are now 36 - never mind non-British EU residents, what about a few years contributions from yourself? Spot on Rob Roy!!!!  So Rich has been benefitting from years of study in the UK and now wants to leave and go and live in another country without putting anything back into the British system.  Perhaps you should have paid for your own education Rich?    Report

05/05/2008, 15:35 Scooby Joined on 25/09/2007 Peak District Posts 275 Re: Should the UK now bar non-British EU residents from free NHS treatment?  Tressy wrote: Oooh and while we're at it, why not exclude the children of the unemployed from education. I can't see either proposal working out too well. No point doing that - most exclude themselves!!  PS I agree with Richard re his healthcare proposals - in fact I would wholly support a move to an insurance based system for the UK. As an aside I have paid for my own education from the age of 16, I have worked full-time and at age 46 have completed 30 years fulltime employment (and so made 30 years of NI contributions) and, despite having a chronic health condition and three children, I have never claimed benefits and have paid privately (hence twice!) for most of my healthcare needs. If there was a greater correlation between use of the system and cost people (i.e. UK citizens) would maybe think twice before they abused the facilities.  Viz - not go to GP for common cough / cold, not turn up at A&E with minor injuries, use their local pharmacist more.    Report

05/05/2008, 15:43 Scooby Joined on 25/09/2007 Peak District Posts 275 Re: Should the UK now bar non-British EU residents from free NHS treatment?  woolybananasbrother wrote: Early retired French pensioners continue to pay full social charges I think (am I right here?) ,whereas early retired expat pensioners paid a flat rate of 8%. I understand that the French government wanted them to pay the same as the French but it all fell apart so hence the new dispensations. Exactly WB - not suprising the average french retiree is p****d off with the rich ex-pats!    Report

05/05/2008, 16:40 Ron Avery Joined on 29/11/2004 Aveyron 12 Posts 3,297 Re: Should the UK now bar non-British EU residents from free NHS treatment?  Scooby wrote:  woolybananasbrother wrote: Early retired French pensioners continue to pay full social charges I think (am I right here?) ,whereas early retired expat pensioners paid a flat rate of 8%. I understand that the French government wanted them to pay the same as the French but it all fell apart so hence the new dispensations. Exactly WB - not suprising the average french retiree is p****d off with the rich ex-pats! Exactly what?  Nobody in FHI  has the slightest idea what WBB is talking about, but no change there then So how would you know what the average French retiree thinks Scooby living in the Peak District of England?  I bet the French are not as *** off about so called rich ex pats as the Tykes are in Leeds at queue jumpers who use their wealth to get hospital treatment pushing aside more deserving cases who cannot afford or who are too ill to qualify for BUPA.  You didn't have to pay for your healthcare so don't moan about, it was your choice.  Just be grateful you live in a country where some politicians didn't put self interest first and actually cared about others who could not afford to go to hospital or even to a Doctor or dentist and provided a healthcare system available to all, irrespective of wealth. Why not post a sensible answer, people will appreciate it more    Report

05/05/2008, 18:03 Russethouse Joined on 23/08/2004 Forum Moderator Posts 9,955 Re: Should the UK now bar non-British EU residents from free NHS treatment?   PS I agree with Richard re his healthcare proposals - in fact I would wholly support a move to an insurance based system for the UK.  Ahem - What do you think National Insurance is  ? Its hardly credible that a system that is envied by many other countries is getting this sort of criticism, and why, because it doesn't suit a few who have decided to move away.....   www.quimperclub.org 99    Report

05/05/2008, 18:07 Scooby Joined on 25/09/2007 Peak District Posts 275 Re: Should the UK now bar non-British EU residents from free NHS treatment? I'm not moaning - tbh I think I got much better treatment privately - and whilst I can still work, I intend to continue to do so.  I just get p**'d off with the whingers who have far less health problems than I do but are too bone idle to get off their backsides and work...and use their illness as an excuse to scrounge.  I also get p**'d off with those who are either hyperchondriacs or who see a visit to their weekly visit to their GP as a valid 'social outing'.  (FYI my OH is a doctor and my daughter and sister are nurses - so it is 'an informed comment').    I think if more people in the UK had to cough up 30 euros for a visit to their doctor it would cut down some of the abuse of the NHS in the UK. Oh and I spend about a quarter of the year in France - and have lots of friends there so, yes, I hear their views on the wealthy Brit expats.       Report

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