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28/04/2008, 13:06 virginia.c Joined on 28/02/2006 Posts 121 Re: Laboratory refuses to do the necessary analysis I'm  very pleased you are sorted out now Norman,  I've been reading this thread with interest.  IMHO to compare and contrast helps promote understanding - long may you continue to do so!    Report

28/04/2008, 13:09 lerochers Joined on 27/04/2008 Posts 10 Re: Laboratory refuses to do the necessary analysis  NormanH wrote: In fact I now understand better. I went to the lab and paid the old bill today. The clinic that did the first biopsy last year never settled the bill with the Lab, which normally they should have done. So when the lab got another sample with my Sécu number it came up on their internal records as an unpaid bill. At the same time I had in fact paid the clinic last year, so I had no way of knowing that there was a problem. (I don't know yet if what I paid included the lab work, or it was just left out of the loop) the Lab did in fact do the most recent analysis which was paid directly by a different clinic in which my other Doctor works, and which is a bit more organised administratively, so they weren't as heartless as the letter sounded. They sent me the letter to get their money from the last time. Although I have been in France a long time my British instincts surfaced in the fact that this would never happen in the UK. With the NHS the medical care comes before money.   Yes health before money in NHS . thats because the State pays the bill. Here the people are self employed.    Report

28/04/2008, 18:08 Sunday Driver Joined on 07/10/2005 Deux Sevres (79) Posts 2,753 Re: Laboratory refuses to do the necessary analysis Not quite - the UK tax payer pays the bill.  In France, the tax burden is much lighter and heathcare contributions are billed separately.  And I think you'll be surpised to learn that the majority of French people are actually not self employed. As stated previously, different systems, and if you have your proper insurance cover in place (and your bills are paid on time), you get the health.......   Waddya mean it's only Saturday......    Report

28/04/2008, 18:22 NormanH Joined on 10/04/2008 Posts 179 Re: Laboratory refuses to do the necessary analysis But of course there can be the sort of glitch I experienced, even with all in place and paid up. Money before care is fine while you have money.    Report

28/04/2008, 18:44 cassis Joined on 28/12/2007 Manhattan and Glasgow Posts 309 Re: Laboratory refuses to do the necessary analysis And if they don't *** up the paperasse. Zoggy played guitar, jammin' good with Weird and Golly. Lyrics copyright Sausage Music 2008    Report

28/04/2008, 21:56 Quillan Joined on 23/08/2004 Forum Moderator Posts 3,577 Re: Laboratory refuses to do the necessary analysis I was wondering if this is a one off case or have there been others and if so does it happen a lot? I know of people from outside the EU even who have received quite expensive and extensive health care in France and not paid a bean. Likewise I also knew a person who was British and received long term treatment as both in and out patient for an illness that eventually killed them (here in France), their partner (because they only had an E111 at the time but had lived her for 2 years- it was about 4 years ago) had their passport taken away, some form of compulsory order put on their house and ended up paying around 90,000 Euros before the body was released for burial in the UK. It seems to me that there appears to be no 'standard'. From what I understand of what Norman wrote they actually did not refuse to do the lab work. http://www.chambresdhote.com    Report

28/04/2008, 22:30 Boiling a frog Joined on 06/09/2004 Charente 16 Posts 539 Re: Laboratory refuses to do the necessary analysis Has anyone ever attended one of their local CPAM offices and wondered why so many people are there with queries about their health care ,reimbursements etc. Ask yourself. Have you ever been to your NHS local office,do you even know where it is?         Boiling a frog    Report

28/04/2008, 22:41 NormanH Joined on 10/04/2008 Posts 179 Re: Laboratory refuses to do the necessary analysis  Quillan wrote: From what I understand of what Norman wrote they actually did not refuse to do the lab work. They did refuse to do it  in the letter, but it was a bluff to get the payment that the first clinic should have,  but hadn't made,  directly from me. When I went into today they said that as the second clinic had paid for the second test they had in fact done it .    Report

29/04/2008, 9:43 Quillan Joined on 23/08/2004 Forum Moderator Posts 3,577 Re: Laboratory refuses to do the necessary analysis  Boiling a frog wrote: Have you ever been to your NHS local office,do you even know where it is? It's the place with the queue outside full of expats paying their £35 fee for seeing a GP and those who have gone to the UK on holiday to either give birth or have their ingrowing toenail sorted out. I did go to the CPAM office to get my card updated. There was only two others there with either questions about their claim forms which they had or to get their cards updated. The office only opens to the public two mornings a week so I guess they don't get that many questions. http://www.chambresdhote.com    Report

29/04/2008, 12:38 cassis Joined on 28/12/2007 Manhattan and Glasgow Posts 309 Re: Laboratory refuses to do the necessary analysis The CPAM at Le Mans has a section with about 20 staff who do nothing other than sort out problems and queries face to face with members of the public.  Went there once, took a ticket, waited 45 minutes before one of them was free.  I then found that we have a CPAM rep who sets up office in our canton one morning a week; in three visits to them I've waited an hour (four people in front of me), then half an hour (one person) and the last time I got straight in to see her. Zoggy played guitar, jammin' good with Weird and Golly. Lyrics copyright Sausage Music 2008    Report

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