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 14/04/2008, 1:39
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Jill
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It is surely a question of language. French people may not necessarily know where the borders are and therefore anyone who speaks English might be considered to be English. Then, also bear in mind the car plates - GB is for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland too, so if French people see GB on the car, it may be that they think of Anglais rather than Britannique. As far as I am concerned, I am English and European. I'm not bothered about the British bit. But, for example, a Breton person may consider themself as Breton, rather than French - but are they actually classed as French rather than Breton. Is there a difference between being Welsh and being Breton? OK, there is a Welsh parliament, but that is new.
I just think that when the French refer to us as les anglais, they are thinking about English speaking Europeans. I can understand that Welsh, Scottish and Irish people may not want to be considered as English, but how are French people supposed to know? The language we speak is English - the same language as appears to be spoken in Calais!!!!
All we can do as individuals is let people know where we come from and use the right name for our country of origine. They can't be expected to understand dialect etc.
Jill (99)
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15/05/2008, 18:11
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odile
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St George was actually Syrian - ahahaha would be an illegal immigrant if he came to UK now. Irony-
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15/05/2008, 22:16
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Cathy
 
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St George is not just the patron saint of England but also of Barcelona, Aragon, Russia, Bavaria, Beirut, Czech, Portugal Lithuania and Hungary.
See this link:
http://www.royalsocietyofstgeorge.com/historyofstgeorge.htm
Cathy
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15/05/2008, 22:20
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woolybanana'sbrother
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The British were always a polyglot lot. I wonder how many of those languages St. George was really proficient in? Not bad for a someone who comes from a country where languages are not prized.
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16/05/2008, 8:16
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Albert the InfoGipsy
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As far as is known George never even visited England, let alone came from there. Personally I think we should reinstate St Edmond.
Albert the InfoGipsy
"So welcome to the Citadel where the question is 'Am I?'"
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16/05/2008, 11:23
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Renaud
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16/05/2008, 11:33
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Clair
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Isn't Royaume-Uni a translation of United Kingdom?
Clair, a Real Virtual French Person
La vérité est si obscurcie en ce temps et le mensonge si établi, qu'à moins d'aimer la vérité, on ne saurait la reconnaître. (Blaise Pascal)
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16/05/2008, 11:48
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Cathy
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The British Isles: England ,Wales, Scotland, The whole of Ireland
The United Kingdom: England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, all of which The Queen is Head of State
Great Britain: England, Wales, Scotland
It irks me when Presidents of USA talk about Great Britain, deliberately excluding Northern Ireland, when they should refer to the United Kingdom.
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