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   20/03/2008, 14:14
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Re: E121 - Long Term Incapacity Benefit At Retirement
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I have tracked down the E123, Grecian, and this bears out what you say:

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/international/sa29/medical_09.asp

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   20/03/2008, 14:57
Grecian is not online. Last active: 16/10/2008 10:52:59 Grecian

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Thanks Coops for tracking down the info on the E123, as you say it clearly states there, what I was told this morning.

I can appreciate the lady you are talking about regarding her withdrawn E121 must be very distressed at the moment, as she seems to have fallen between two stools so to speak. The only information I was told this morning from DWP regarding future assessments if living in France, was that as it stands at the moment the receipient will receive a reassessment form to fill out, as my wife does now, if DWP are not satisfied with this they will request she attend a medical by a French doctor, for which DWP will pay for. If she is not happy with this scenario, or lacking French language skills, she can be examined by a doctor in the UK, but this option would be at her own expense.

This does not allow for any future developments regarding reassessment of IB claimants from 2010, or if a Conservative government is formed after the next general election, with their policy simply stating that all IB claimants will be reassessed. All very worrying for anybody who considers they are genuine claimants, especially now with the 5 year residency law, and not being allowed access to PHI even if they are prepared to pay for it.

ebaynut, we can only keep our fingers crossed the ruling goes our way, and an E121 is granted via DLA, I think any future government would have trouble in trying to tell somebody that in fact they are not disabled, and thus revoke thier E121. We can only hope.

 


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Grecian, we currently know of 5 people who have had these assessments and 3 have had their IB withdrawn.  1 has appealed successfully, the other two are in the process.  You should be aware that you can have a translator with you if you are asssessed here in France.  The lady I mention above did not do so, as she is a fluent French speaker, but she advised me that she felt it would be sensible to take one - even if you don't feel you need to for the language aspect - simply as a witness to what goes on, should an appeal become necessary.
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   21/03/2008, 14:12
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I seem to have opened up a can of worms when I started this thread.

Just as an aside, if anyone has an IB E121 does it include thier dependants, husband/wife like the retirement E121?

Tony Ackland (aka. rothrugby)


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   21/03/2008, 14:53
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Yes, it does.
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   21/03/2008, 19:09
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But not for the 100%, only for the normal 70% allowance.

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   22/03/2008, 10:00
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Oops, David, yes - you are right of course.

 

On this subject, FHI is trying to establish the difference between the two forms - a retirement E121 and an IB one.  We would be really interested to see copies of each of these.  If anybody still has a copy of either, which they would be willing to share with us (with the personal details removed of course, it is just the detail of the forms we need to see), please e-mail me.  Thank you.


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   22/03/2008, 14:31
David is not online. Last active: 26/11/2008 18:40:02 David

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Re: E121 - Long Term Incapacity Benefit At Retirement
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Hi Coops,

I have a copy of my E121, but not my wife's.  The only difference is which box is crossed.

If you want I could send you a copy of mine, an IB form, but I am not prepared to publish it on an open public forum.  How do you suggest I send it to you?

David

Edit.  Originally my wife was not included on my E121.  After representations to Newcastle she was included, but when she reached 60 years, she was given her own E121.

 


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   23/03/2008, 13:23
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That would be great David, I'd really just like to see a copy to get a feel for the various options on them.  If you could e-mail me, then we can do this off the forum.  Thanks.Smile [:)]
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