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06/01/2008, 20:38 tegwini Joined on 19/09/2007 Wiltshire & Vienne Posts 278 Re: Oradour sur Glanes The DVDs/Videos 'The world at war' narrated by Laurence Olivier covers Oradour dur Glanes.  They last for about an hour each DVD & were recently available in one of the national newspapers We also visited it & also noted the silence, and yes, no birds around when we were there,   As a history teacher I do find 20th century history at times sad, almost depressing.    But, 'man's inhumanity towards man'    is   not new, it's been happening since time began. The Oradour massacre is especially poignant hearing about the woman trying & failing to get her baby out of the window above the high altar as the baby cried & the soldiers heard it. Tegwini      I think, therefore perhaps I am...    Report

10/01/2008, 20:08 Jura Joined on 28/11/2005 Posts 805 Re: Oradour sur Glanes Northender, your 'vaulting' over the fence brings to mind our own experience of visiting the village. My partner visited there in 1998, pre the price charging museum, and remembers a plaque stating that the village was to be available to the public free of charge to remain as a constant reminder to future generations as to what happened there. When we visited there in 2003 the museum was in place; the village itself is free to visit however  the administration of the museum have cannily worked it so that it is almost impossible to access the village without paying to go through the museum first. We did the back-entrance 'vault' ourselves on this occasion. I don't believe that money should be made out of this horrific incident in recent history. Don't be ashamed, it was the original intention that this village be accessed for free and by all.    Report

10/01/2008, 22:43 Hoddy Joined on 23/08/2004 .....Forum Moderator..... NW Leics/SE Dordogne Posts 2,192 Re: Oradour sur Glanes "We did the back-entrance 'vault' ourselves on this occasion. I don't believe that money should be made out of this horrific incident in recent history. Don't be ashamed, it was the original intention that this village be accessed for free and by all." If that was the original intention then it was unrealistic. Some parts of the walls are already unsafe. For my part I'm happy to pay for them to be preserved and for the weeds to be kept down so that future generations can see what I've seen. That doesn't strike me as making money out of it. Hoddy    Report

11/01/2008, 9:33 Sunday Driver Joined on 07/10/2005 Deux Sevres (79) Posts 3,172 Re: Oradour sur Glanes  Jura wrote: Northender, your 'vaulting' over the fence brings to mind our own experience of visiting the village. My partner visited there in 1998, pre the price charging museum, and remembers a plaque stating that the village was to be available to the public free of charge to remain as a constant reminder to future generations as to what happened there. When we visited there in 2003 the museum was in place; the village itself is free to visit however  the administration of the museum have cannily worked it so that it is almost impossible to access the village without paying to go through the museum first. We did the back-entrance 'vault' ourselves on this occasion. I don't believe that money should be made out of this horrific incident in recent history. Don't be ashamed, it was the original intention that this village be accessed for free and by all. Northender's improper entry to this solemn place of rememberance came about because it was officially closed at the time.  His admittance of shame is a mark of the respect he has for the place. In your case, the objective was to get in without paying.  Clearly more important to you than showing respect.....       Waddya mean it's only Saturday......    Report

11/01/2008, 9:39 Scooby Joined on 25/09/2007 Peak District Posts 311 Re: Oradour sur Glanes When we went it was during the winter when the main museum was closed.  We just walked into the village - there were no locked gates or paypoints etc as I recall.    Report

11/01/2008, 10:10 lebois Joined on 25/09/2007 Perigord Posts 111 Re: Oradour sur Glanes  Scooby wrote: When we went it was during the winter when the main museum was closed.  We just walked into the village - there were no locked gates or paypoints etc as I recall. Yes that is right, there are gates at the back which are open all year round to allow visitors to pay their respects. French Health Issues Website    Report

11/01/2008, 19:37 Northender Joined on 24/01/2007 NW England/Lot Posts 52 Re: Oradour sur Glanes I think Sunday Driver is being a little hard on Jura. Surely the point Jura was trying to make was that the people who operate the museum at Oradour had intentionally made it difficult for people to access the village without first paying to visit the museum. Commercialism should not be a consideration and funding for maintenance of the site should come from the public purse , the same as they do for the other war memorials. I think everyone would agree that the site should be regarded as a war memorial to all those innocent men , women and children who lost their lives and act as a reminder to future generations the horrors that wars create. To this end it should be free , encouraging people to visit and experience what I and others have experienced.    Report

11/01/2008, 20:00 Boiling a frog Joined on 06/09/2004 Charente 16 Posts 652 Re: Oradour sur Glanes Accessing the site is easy,all one does is enter the main building and walk past the museum entrance to access the site ,which is free.         Boiling a frog    Report

11/01/2008, 23:30 Tresco Joined on 23/08/2004 Charente Maritime. Posts 4,635 Re: Oradour sur Glanes I can't understand all this jumping over walls or entering through any other building. People are making it sound as though the village and the museum are somehow 'joined'. They aren't. I was there on the 28th of December, and walked straight in through the gate. I never even saw the museum.    Report

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