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   31/03/2007, 10:33
Sunday Driver is not online. Last active: 02/12/2008 10:52:54 Sunday Driver



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If you re-read Art 322-1 that I quoted earlier, it includes semi trailers.  There are no separate regulations regarding registration.

UK semi trailers are the same as caravans.  They do not require separate registration and can be operated under the registration number of the tractor unit. If the trailers are left in another EU country then they can only be collected by another UK registered tractor unit.  Those arrangements comply with the legislation of their country of registration and there's no argument about that, so there's no need for any blind eye to be involved. 

Logan

I'm not having a go at you for the sake of argument.  I just wouldn't want you or anyone else reading this to rely on a V5C for a UK tow car doing anything at all to prove registration of a caravan in order for it to be towed by a French car.

 


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   31/03/2007, 12:05
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UK semi trailers are the same as caravans.  They do not require separate registration and can be operated under the registration number of the tractor unit. If the trailers are left in another EU country then they can only be collected by another UK registered tractor unit.  Those arrangements comply with the legislation of their country of registration and there's no argument about that, so there's no need for any blind eye to be involved. 

Yes but they are often collected and used by tractor units of another EU country with a different EU country registration. That was my point. You see this senario all the time on the road. I have seen French tractors units towing UK trailers and vice-versa. A common sight is a Dutch tractor units with UK trailer. They do not bother to change the number plates. Another sight is trailer units displaying 3 different EU registrations!! How is the law related to that? I believe the law is actually applied on the ground with a great degree of flexibility for the sake of commerce between EU nations. Also Gendarmes hate the paper work involved.


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   31/03/2007, 14:54
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Thanks SD. Looks as if we will have to get it registered.

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   07/06/2007, 11:23
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I have been informed that to tow an English caravan behind a French registered car that the caravan has to comply with the French immatriculation laws and that the caravan door must not be on the road side of the caravan, which at once would surely mean that most UK caravans would not comply?
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   07/06/2007, 12:00
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The regulation concerning the positioning of the side access door does not apply to caravans - only to motorcaravans.

 


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   07/06/2007, 12:44
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You will find that the door issue is an old wives tale.
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   07/06/2007, 16:23
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I'm currently going through the registration process for a Lunar Clubman caravan of 1989 vintage. I can assure you that everything  SD has told you is correct.

There's enough red tape to put you off, particularly if you don't like speaking French on the telephone, but you just have to make a list of the jobs and work your way through them. I've found that the people at the DRIRE and Bureau Veritas are very helpful.

The issue of the positioning of the door is, in fact, a non-issue! It doesn't matter.

With a more modern 'van, with a manufacturer's certificate of conformity, it should be relatively straightforward.

As to the question of weight; there are not many caravans (in fact, none that I can think of!) with a PTAC (max loaded weight) of less than 750kgs, so insurance and registration will be essential.

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   07/06/2007, 19:34
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The door on the "wrong side " seemed to matter when I tried to insure mine .....please post the name of a French insurance company who will cover your UK van ..lots of caravan owners would love to know one ......My  house insureres are one of the biggest not just in France but all over Europe and they would not cover my UK made van ..."door on wrong side " they said .....I dont think French companies want to know about UK vans  and the "wrong side door " is their get out .

..I gave up in the end and the van sat in my garden unnused .uninsured  for two years ...the UK insurers only cover you for a limited number of days while they think you are touring ...ask them to cover you while your vans  in your French property garden and watch them run for the hills .  My van is back in the UK  towed back last month covered by a UK company ...but only from the day they knew it would be on the road heading back for the UK .....I wish you luck     If I were to go in for caravanning from my French home in the future..... I would seriously consider selling the UK one and buying a French certified van that I could get insurance for .   


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   08/06/2007, 8:17
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"The door on the "wrong side " seemed to matter when I tried to insure mine .....please post the name of a French insurance company who will cover your UK van ..lots of caravan owners would love to know one ......My  house insureres are one of the biggest not just in France but all over Europe and they would not cover my UK made van ..."door on wrong side " they said .....I dont think French companies want to know about UK vans  and the "wrong side door " is their get out . "

If the caravan has been registered in France what's the problem? I was not asked which side the door was on when I insured my ex UK caravan, nor were any of the friends I know with ex UK caravans.I just had to supply the insurance company with a copy of the Carte Gris.


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