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   01/09/2008, 12:17
Loiseau is not online. Last active: 06/11/2008 15:14:03 Loiseau

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Of course there is no copyright on the *information* itself.

But when person A takes that information and, in order to make it useful and comprehensible to others, has written it up in his/her own words, and then person B lifts *those exact words* and presents them as if they were his/her own work - that is where the infringement occurs.

There is of course nothing to prevent person B trawling round the same multifarious sources as those used by person A (or indeed other sources), and producing their OWN version of events listings.  However, if this had been the case you would expect that the events featured and the words used might vary slightly.
The only differences that I can see here is that I have recently added some new events, and person B does not seem to have woken up to that fact yet...

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   01/09/2008, 12:27
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Erm, whilst I sympathise with your position and your indignation Loiseau, as this conversation relates to two other forums, it would be better carried out by PM between person A and person B (I don't think you'll have too much trouble working out who he is Whistles [Www] ).


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   01/09/2008, 12:32
Loiseau is not online. Last active: 06/11/2008 15:14:03 Loiseau

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Sorry Cat.  Fingers got carried away before brain there.

 

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   01/09/2008, 12:37
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No problem Angela.

And can I just remind anyone who needs reminding, that dual ID's are not allowed on this forum, and that sock puppets (should there be any around) will find their membership disapproved.

 


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   01/09/2008, 13:41
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What does that mean Cat? In words a layperson can understand please.
http://www.amazon.fr/Accepter-son-corps-saimer-François/dp/2738121748/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1227267136&sr=1-1
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   01/09/2008, 13:52
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What it means for you is that you can either be woolybanana or his brother, not both.......not here anyway......Smile [:)]Smile [:)]
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   01/09/2008, 14:01
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But RH, we poor caravan dwellers only have one computer and do say who we are in each post. Then there is the nice point that he and I are identical twins whom not even are wives could tell apart and thereby hangs a tail (sic). Now as for poor little Randy, well...Devil [6]
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   02/09/2008, 10:47
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Of course copyright in most cases rests with the author fact and fact  Hence the 'C' but I just wondered as a lawyer whose bag is not in this area where the origination of the web site was?  I presume the UK so therefore someone has lifted information from this site and populated their own thus not their original material.  I think a breach.  However what damage has been done save for someone not being let us say 100% up front and surely as a minimum it would have been nice to email asking whether it was possible to use the information.  Of course I am old and equally older today for its my birthday and very much a please and thank you sort of individual.

Will will know better than I but is there Copyright law in France knowing these kind souls I think they would protect their rights and privacies to the full?


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   02/09/2008, 12:37
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As far as I know the copyright law in France is the same as the rest of Europe, and this has been broadly the case since the Berne Convention was signed in the 1880s (I think). An attempt was made to harmonise the rules a few years ago - as a result UK law changed in some details, such as it no longer being strictly necessary to use the copyright symbol, and it becoming very difficult for a publisher to claim copyright (though many will try) - that, as you rightly say, rests with the originator.

In a case like this it is of somewhat academic interest, because it is highly unlikely that any financial loss will have been suffered as a result of the copying. It is much more a lack of common courtesy and, apparently, ignorance of both correct practice and normal ettiquette among authors.

Happy birthday anyway, dragonrouge.

 


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